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leo99rules

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Posted November 25, '10 12:31am UTC

If someone truly believes that the world is ruled by unicorns and fairies, is it a lie?

If there is evidence to back up a false information, is it a truth or a lie.

What is there to make it not true that pixies are alive?

You can't say there is no evidence because seeing can technically be a source of evidence.

But is not seeing a source of evidence?

If a plane goes past two people and only one person saw it and the other didn't because he was looking behind him. It is truth?

So is seeing a pixie go past and only one person sees it and the other doesn't. Is it truth?

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CommanderDude7

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Posted November 25, '10 2:48am UTC

@the mice hypothesis
What if the mice laid that evidence for us to find, assuming that we would never believe mice could be capable of such things.

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MRWalker82

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Posted November 25, '10 2:51am UTC

Again, it's not about having some evidence, you have to have an overwhelming preponderance of evidence as well as a lack of evidence for alternative hypothesis. So if you have one or two things which are evidence that mice did it, and thousands of pieces of evidence that show they did not, then they did not and we can say that with enough confidence to determine that it is a truth.

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MageGrayWolf

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Posted November 25, '10 3:10am UTC

I don't know why but I feel I should eat a bunch of brownies before coming into this thread.

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DDX

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Posted November 25, '10 7:42am UTC

*sigh* closet philosophers make me want to shoot up an orphanage with a machine gun.

If someone truly believes that the world is ruled by unicorns and fairies, is it a lie?

no, because no one is able to prove the existence or otherwise of said beings.

If there is evidence to back up a false information, is it a truth or a lie.

it is a lie. duh
false facts are not facts. as to denote facts they have to be true.

What is there to make it not true that pixies are alive?

there isn't, so the question is open to what you define alive as, whether it is "being" or "existing" the idea of being alive differs and you'd have to define alive before you can answer the question

You can't say there is no evidence because seeing can technically be a source of evidence.

because of your failed premise 2 evidence backing false claims makes the claim itself false

If a plane goes past two people and only one person saw it and the other didn't because he was looking behind him. It is truth?

wtf is this question even asking, what is the truth... learn grammar please... is it "truth" that an airplane flew by? well i will entertain your notion. just because one of his senses was no there, he was still able to hear the plane... so therefore he would have KNOWN that the plane flew by. derp.

So is seeing a pixie go past and only one person sees it and the other doesn't. Is it truth?

died a little reading this question. like the japanese people adding "ka" to the end of ANY sentence to denote a question... that is what i feel like you are doing.. attaching a question mark for the lulz.

i dont even know what this question is asking.

*sigh* closet philosophers make me want to shoot up an orphanage with a machine gun.\r\n\r\n[quote]If someone truly believes that the world is ruled by unicorns and fairies, is it a lie?[/quote]\r\nno, because no one is able to prove the existence or otherwise of said beings.\r\n\r\n[quote]If there is evidence to back up a false information, is it a truth or a lie.[/quote]\r\nit is a lie. duh\r\nfalse facts are not facts. as to denote facts they have to be true.\r\n\r\n[quote]What is there to make it not true that pixies are alive?[/quote]\r\nthere isn't, so the question is open to what you define alive as, whether it is "being" or "existing" the idea of being alive differs and you'd have to define alive before you can answer the question\r\n\r\n[quote]You can't say there is no evidence because seeing can technically be a source of evidence.[/quote]\r\nbecause of your failed premise 2 evidence backing false claims makes the claim itself false\r\n\r\n[quote]If a plane goes past two people and only one person saw it and the other didn't because he was looking behind him. It is truth?[/quote]\r\nwtf is this question even asking, what is the truth... learn grammar please... is it "truth" that an airplane flew by? well i will entertain your notion. just because one of his senses was no there, he was still able to hear the plane... so therefore he would have KNOWN that the plane flew by. derp.\r\n[quote]So is seeing a pixie go past and only one person sees it and the other doesn't. Is it truth?[/quote]\r\ndied a little reading this question. like the japanese people adding "ka" to the end of ANY sentence to denote a question... that is what i feel like you are doing.. attaching a question mark for the lulz. \r\n\r\ni dont even know what this question is asking.

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MageGrayWolf

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Posted November 25, '10 1:32pm UTC

i dont even know what this question is asking.

Oh good, I was beginning to think it was just me.

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DDX

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Nomad

Posted November 25, '10 5:41pm UTC

Oh good, I was beginning to think it was just me.

after reading your comment, im going through and reading this thread... and im luling so hard

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ShatterGlass

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Nomad

Posted November 26, '10 12:05pm UTC

Lies are simply a means for men to get out of trouble with their female counterparts.

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Joe96

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Posted November 27, '10 4:14am UTC

If someone truly believes that the world is ruled by unicorns and fairies, is it a lie?

No, it is just ignorance

If there is evidence to back up a false information, is it a truth or a lie.

If there is evidence to back up false information, either:
1.The information is not really false
or
2.The evidence is fake

What is there to make it not true that pixies are alive?

They are

http://twilight-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/EdwardCullen1.jpg

You can't say there is no evidence because seeing can technically be a source of evidence

Unless the person who saw it was wasted

But is not seeing a source of evidence

^ditto

If a plane goes past two people and only one person saw it and the other didn't because he was looking behind him. It is truth?

Well if it's there

So is seeing a pixie go past and only one person sees it and the other doesn't. Is it truth?

Are you saying you saw one?

[quote]If someone truly believes that the world is ruled by unicorns and fairies, is it a lie?[/quote]\r\nNo, it is just ignorance\r\n[quote]If there is evidence to back up a false information, is it a truth or a lie.[/quote]\r\nIf there is evidence to back up false information, either:\r\n1.The information is not really false\r\nor\r\n2.The evidence is fake\r\n[quote]What is there to make it not true that pixies are alive?[/quote]\r\nThey are\r\n[img]http://twilight-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/EdwardCullen1.jpg[/img]\r\n[quote]You can't say there is no evidence because seeing can technically be a source of evidence[/quote]\r\nUnless the person who saw it was wasted\r\n[quote]But is not seeing a source of evidence[/quote]\r\n^ditto\r\n[quote]If a plane goes past two people and only one person saw it and the other didn't because he was looking behind him. It is truth?[/quote]\r\nWell if it's there\r\n[quote]So is seeing a pixie go past and only one person sees it and the other doesn't. Is it truth?[/quote]\r\nAre you saying you saw one?

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