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While Julian Assange is currently facing extradition to Sweden over alleged **** charges, debate is still raging about whether this is politically motivated, or whether this is a serious charge against the Wikileaks founder?

What are your opinions? Not only about the current case, but about Wikileaks in general? Do you think that Wikileaks is, as they say, keeping governments open? Or is Wikileaks a criminal organization? Maybe your opinion lies somewhere inbetween?

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He can't be charged for publishing them, but receiving stolen property is felonious.


yes, because you can definitely be charged with a felony when [b]you aren't even residing in The United States[/quote]

also, information is not considered property. Or people would be sent to jail for pirating games rather than sued for copyright infringement.
Kevin4762
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Helped? No, he's simply made information free again. The countries that support him do so because they support free knowledge.


I like how you avoided the question. Smooth transition, my friend. Let me rephrase: what countries support him because he supports free knowledge?

There's a difference between school justice and the US justice system.


Then again, you avoid my other examples. Smooth.

You aren't charged until you're convicted by a jury of your peers.


Excuse me. You can be indicted by a grand jury, but charged by a police officer.
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Iceland likes Wikileaks.

http://gigaom.com/2010/06/17/iceland-and-wikileaks-try-to-make-the-world-safe-for-secrets/

Kevin4762
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http://gigaom.com/2010/06/17/iceland-and-wikileaks-try-to-make-the-world-safe-for-secrets/


Great! Now give me the other 194 countries that like Wikileaks and give me reasons why they like it.
slogsdon
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When did I ever say every country supported wikileaks?

Kevin4762
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When did I ever say every country supported wikileaks?


You didn't.
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I like how you avoided the question.


You just asked the wrong question :P

Clearly Arab nations that are largely at war with America would support wikileaks meaning, as a last resort, Assange could seek refuge there.

I also see Britian's decision not to extradite Assange to Sweden as a small show of support and, as we all know, the UK has a large influence over European politics.

He also has the support of Journalists world wide. and in addition to that he has the support of prominant American libertarian Ron Paul

If you buy new shoes that cost $400 and you usually wear shoes that cost $50, I could claim you stole them and take you to court and I could win.


Unless you can give me an example along with any legal cases showing that this would ever happen I say again, innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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You just asked the wrong question :P

Clearly Arab nations that are largely at war with America would support wikileaks meaning, as a last resort, Assange could seek refuge there.

I also see Britian's decision not to extradite Assange to Sweden as a small show of support and, as we all know, the UK has a large influence over European politics.

He also has the support of Journalists world wide. and in addition to that he has the support of prominant American libertarian Ron Paul


Cool. Now what information is so valuable to those Arab nations?

Unless you can give me an example along with any legal cases showing that this would ever happen I say again, innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.


Better yet, I could quote what it says in my Street Law textbook.

If you receive or buy property that you know or have reason to believe is stolen, you have committed the crime of receiving stolen property. Knowledge that the property his stolen may be implied by the circumstances, for example, buying goods out of the trunk of an automobile or for a price that is unreasonably low. In most states, receiving stolen property is a felony if the value of the property received is more than $100 and a misdemeanor if the value is $100 or less.


I could take a picture of the page if you like.
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Now what information is so valuable to those Arab nations?


Not very much, it's America getting ***** slapped; that's funny.

If you receive or buy property that you know or have reason to believe is stolen, you have committed the crime of receiving stolen property.


Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with the example you posted before; perhaps with Assange but elite's post deals with that.
Kevin4762
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Not very much, it's America getting ***** slapped; that's funny.


Believe me, I don't have a problem with Wikileaks, but I think the information there is a bit stupid.

Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with the example you posted before; perhaps with Assange but elite's post deals with that.


Actually, I got sidetracked into talking about that, but what I was referring to before, is that Assange can be charged with receiving stolen property.
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