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Gking19
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I was just wondering, anyone play Super Smash Bros Brawl? I personally think its the BEST game ever invented for the Wii, eventhough Call of Duty is like the best war game ever. But back to the point, anyone own or play Super Smash Bros Brawl?

~Gking19~

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thebluerabbit
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sure lets start:
since he is small he is harder to hit. maybe light but can easily fly back to stage.

a good jigglypuff player usually doesnt use the shield but he avoids attabks.

a good use of his best attacks wont leave her open (i mentioned before)

again, a good jigglypuff player doesnt use many normal attacks snd throws. (and her quick throw when he runs has a nice reach)

his moves are not about sending the character flying every time. she is a stretegic character. and her a smashes are very usefull with a good momentum.

he isnt fast on ground. but very fast on air. and since he is small you can stay in the air and stay close to the ground so hitting opponents isnt hard. again you have to use her fliying skills and if you dont like staying in the air alot then you cant use jigglypuff effectively.

thats why she has her side b. it is really helpfull to get back to the stage (you probably have no idea in what way though) the think is if you do it you can also go up alittle bit and since you can use it an infinite amount of time it is verry easy to recover to the stage.

and if you are good enough you wont suicide by rollouting. if you get used to it you usually wont die .

most of these i already mentioned before. are you even reading my comments?

FallenSky
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ike is the best caracter. his attacks are uber powerfull. to bad this game is no longer fun to me D:

Ike's too slow, I prefer Mart. (But then again, I prefer Roy to Marth, making it one of the reasons I tend to prefer melee to brawl.)

As for the jigglypuff debate; jigglypuff is as good as any other character in my opinion, and whoever was good with the physical movepool of kirby for the N64 can surely hold his own with pinky.

My top three would be something like;

- Pikachu (My all time character, on all smash games. Plus, they uber powered the down smash on brawl)
- Marth (Closest character to roy)
- Mario (Closest character to Dr.Mario, and the only one to retain the godly turnback cape.)

FallenSky
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Ness is stupid!

I'm sure you'd have another opinion of him if you played earthbound. This game was an eye opener for me, and even though I don't use him, now at least I respect him.

thebluerabbit
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i like using ness. i like lucas better though. i heard the mother (earthbound) games are really deep and i wish i played them. but arent they in japanese only?

BanjoMacpherson
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Earthbound is available on SNES, blue. I think they may be releasing Mother 3 on the Nintendo DS.

supastick
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its an beastly game and theese are my faves

1.meta knight
2.ike
3.fox

gewglebamboo
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I love that game. My favorite character to use is Meta Knight

idontsuckthatmuch
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I haven't played this game in a really long time, ever since I got an Xbox. It's still really fun though. My favorite map is probably Temple from Melee or Final Destination.

Kasic
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since he is small he is harder to hit. maybe light but can easily fly back to stage.


Sure, that's true...if you even survive a hit when you have 70+% on you. When Jigglypuff is at around that, maybe 80%, she's in the fatal range for a good smash hit.

a good use of his best attacks wont leave her open (i mentioned before)


Which are...? Her attacks are weak and very short ranged, and not all that fast. Her down kick is good, and her back kick, her grab is decent...but you have to get ridiculously close to use them.

again, a good jigglypuff player doesnt use many normal attacks snd throws. (and her quick throw when he runs has a nice reach)


If you're killing someone with only throws from Jigglypuff, they suck. Jigglypuff's reach is nill, probably the lowest of all chracters, not to mention she's so short she can't grab anyone if they even slightly jump.

his moves are not about sending the character flying every time. she is a stretegic character. and her a smashes are very usefull with a good momentum


No character is, you have to damage them first. Momentum adds nothing to your hit, except if you're going so fast that you hurt them just by running into them...but usually that means you're spinning out of control and can't use any moves anyways. Whether you're running or stopped when you use a characters attack, it hits them the same.

he isnt fast on ground. but very fast on air. and since he is small you can stay in the air and stay close to the ground so hitting opponents isnt hard. again you have to use her fliying skills and if you dont like staying in the air alot then you cant use jigglypuff effectively.


I do believe that every chracter aside from maybe Bowser and Gannondorf can go faster through the air than Jigglypuff. Agreed that you do have to stay in the air, since her back kick is one of her 2 good moves.

thats why she has her side b. it is really helpfull to get back to the stage (you probably have no idea in what way though) the think is if you do it you can also go up alittle bit and since you can use it an infinite amount of time it is verry easy to recover to the stage.


I know perfectly well what you can use her punch for...but if you can't fly back onto the stage with just her air jumps, the punch is probably not going to help. Also, if you're below the stage, it won't help either. You CANNOT use it an infinite amount of times, you lose height every time you do it, however you can do it as many times as you like while you're in the air before you hit the ground.

and if you are good enough you wont suicide by rollouting. if you get used to it you usually wont die


You do know that you can grab jigglypuff out of the roll? Or just side dodge when you're standing at a ledge and let her fly off? It's really not very hard to make that miss, and you're stuck sitting there once you charge it.

most of these i already mentioned before. are you even reading my comments?


I have been. If you posted this earlier I haven't seen it. All i've seen is you say that Jigglypuff is not a bad character and that in the hands of a good person she can win. Which isn't all that different from what i'm saying. I'm just saying that, if you fight someone and win with Jigglypuff, either 3 things happened. You are noticeably better at the game in general and would most likely beat that person with any other character. They let their guard down since it was Jigglypuff. Or last, you got lucky with items and what not.
thebluerabbit
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Sure, that's true...if you even survive a hit when you have 70+% on you. When Jigglypuff is at around that, maybe 80%, she's in the fatal range for a good smash hit.


again since he is hard to hit it will be hard just getting him to 70%.

[/quote]Which are...? Her attacks are weak and very short ranged, and not all that fast. Her down kick is good, and her back kick, her grab is decent...but you have to get ridiculously close to use them.[/quote]

BECAUSE his attacks arent that good you have to use her in a stretegy way. thats what her flying is for.if you fly low near the opponent its easy to hit him.

f you're killing someone with only throws from Jigglypuff, they suck. Jigglypuff's reach is nill, probably the lowest of all chracters, not to mention she's so short she can't grab anyone if they even slightly jump.


well if the opponent will jump he wont be abler to hit jigglypuff so no one gets hurt in that situation.

No character is, you have to damage them first. Momentum adds nothing to your hit, except if you're going so fast that you hurt them just by running into them...but usually that means you're spinning out of control and can't use any moves anyways. Whether you're running or stopped when you use a characters attack, it hits them the same.


ummmm... i just said smashes. and jigglypuff can hit any character easily with her moves and fliying play style. and i also meant that with the momentum her smashes will be usefull just as any other characters smashes.

I do believe that every chracter aside from maybe Bowser and Gannondorf can go faster through the air than Jigglypuff. Agreed that you do have to stay in the air, since her back kick is one of her 2 good moves.


by that i meant more agile. its not about the speed its about the controll he has on air. he can move as smoothly in the air like any character can on floor and if your used to it then even better.

I know perfectly well what you can use her punch for...but if you can't fly back onto the stage with just her air jumps, the punch is probably not going to help. Also, if you're below the stage, it won't help either. You CANNOT use it an infinite amount of times, you lose height every time you do it, however you can do it as many times as you like while you're in the air before you hit the ground.


you just took my explanation and said its wrong... thats not a proof. jigglypuff can use it effectively even under the stage and thats a fact. the punch gives her a little lift and since you can use it effectively after each jump she makes you can go to amazing heights and recover from almost anywhere.

You do know that you can grab jigglypuff out of the roll? Or just side dodge when you're standing at a ledge and let her fly off? It's really not very hard to make that miss, and you're stuck sitting there once you charge it.


grabbing him wasnt what i was talking about. and you only suicide if you get careless. if you go through a defending opponent and go the other direction you wont faal doesnt matter how close you are to the edge because jigglypuff will just stop there also if you fail to hit then you can ususally get out of the roll really far from the opponent so he cant hit you.

I have been. If you posted this earlier I haven't seen it. All i've seen is you say that Jigglypuff is not a bad character and that in the hands of a good person she can win. Which isn't all that different from what i'm saying. I'm just saying that, if you fight someone and win with Jigglypuff, either 3 things happened. You are noticeably better at the game in general and would most likely beat that person with any other character. They let their guard down since it was Jigglypuff. Or last, you got lucky with items and what not.


no what i am saying is the opposite of what you are saying. i am saying that jigglypuff is equall to all other players and if 2 people with same skill fight anyone of them can win without having anything to do with luck or lletting his guard down. not to mention you cant let your guard down all the battle. you start to notice your loosing when you die once or get a really high %

ps: thats the first time i used quotes so i have no idea if it worked
Kasic
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I know a fairly easy way to settle this

We could just play each other if your Wi-Fi works, and mine as well...I haven't tried to play Brawl on Wi-Fi for a long time.

ps: thats the first time i used quotes so i have no idea if it worked


All but one of them.
thebluerabbit
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lol yeah i noticed i messed one up. anyway it would be nice to play but: if id win youd just easily say that im better and if i lose and then win youl just say i got lucky. another thing is that we probably cant play because of distance. i already tried to play a few times and the lagg was horibble

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my top characters (no particular order)

1. kirby
2. pikachu
3. diddy kong
4. toon link
5. marth
6. snake (sometimes)

Kasic
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if id win youd just easily say that im better


If you won yes, you'd probably be better...but i'd get to see how you played Jigglypuff. If your overall strategy/move choice is far different from mine i'll know that you might be right that it's how you use her, and that she isn't just a bad character.

if i lose and then win youl just say i got lucky


Normally it's pretty obvious if you get lucky. For example, once I was playing my friend as Ike, he was Snake. We each had over 100% damage on us at Final Destination...in the kill zone, since we're both hard hitting chars. I landed a small hit on him and then jumped to do my A in air...where a bomb spawned right then and I blew up because my attack was already underway and I couldn't stop it. Thus I lost. That's what I mean by luck :P
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I play it
My fave characters are Luigi, cause he's good if you learn to use him well and Metaknight because he's incredibly broken and cheap and I like ticking off opponents!

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