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0ShimZ0
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Just yesterday when i saw the picture of our galaxy, it got me thinking. when you look at it, you can observe that the center is pull the extremities towards it. it is said that in space bigger astral objects attrack smaller ones, i think it's the same on a bigger scale, and eventually every thing will be one.
you know the rest => big bang.
what's your opinion of this small theory?

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MageGrayWolf
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Actually this is your hypothesis, not a theory. I would suggest looking up more information and seeing if there are any other galaxies that we have discovered going through such a process.

you know the rest => big bang.


Not exactly what the big bang refers to.
Maverick4
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Sounds similar to the Universal Cycle Theory. The Universe will collapse, converge on a single point, large amounts of energy are released, and that energy becomes mass, and the Big Bang happens all over again.

Not that Newtonian Causality means anything anymore... -_-

0ShimZ0
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@ MageGrayWolf thank you for the correction, yes hypothesis!
as for the other Galaxies that are going through the same process, i'm talking about the lagest scale there is. all the galaxies converging together by creating one only object and then exploding (big bang) releasing molecules into space which will comverge together creat planets, stars, and so on.
like Maverick said a cycle.
so in my hypothesis before the big bang there was exactly what there is now.

Sounds similar to the Universal Cycle Theory

well that's actually what i meant(just didn't know the name)
what is your opinion on that theory?

Newtonian Causality about that, i did a quick search on google nothing came up. do you mind posting a link?
MRWalker82
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Actually the universe is expanding, not collapsing on itself. Since everything is moving away from everything else, and those that are further away are moving faster, the likelihood of even a portion of the galaxies in our universe to collide is astronomically unlikely.

The current prevailing hypothesis about the end of our universe is that it will eventually reach maximum entropy and all processes, from the sub-atomic scale on up, will no longer have enough energy to occur and, basically, everything stops. Permanently.

0ShimZ0
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The current prevailing hypothesis about the end of our universe is that it will eventually reach maximum entropy and all processes, from the sub-atomic scale on up, will no longer have enough energy to occur and, basically, everything stops. Permanently.

that doesn't really make my hypothesis wrong since when all objects stop moving, slowly the gravitation of bigger objects in space will atract smaller once, like it was during our solar system creation.
[/quote]Actually the universe is expanding, not collapsing on itself.[quote] yes, it is expanding, for the moment but will come a stage in our universe which will start converging, a process that will take a long time.
! i don't have any evidence as to how. what got me thinking is the force which started the formation of our solar system, Gravitation.
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The current prevailing hypothesis about the end of our universe is that it will eventually reach maximum entropy and all processes, from the sub-atomic scale on up, will no longer have enough energy to occur and, basically, everything stops. Permanently.


So, no more motion would occur, and it would be like an eternal time freeze? Interesting concept.
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The planets of our solar system are turning around the sun, right? And they are not getting really near the sun nor flying out into space, right? I guess it's the same or similar for the galaxy.. of course large objects attract others stronger than smaller ones, but I think the way the galaxy looks like is not because it is being slurped into the center, but rather due to cyclic rotations of groups of astral objects like solar systems, that themselves have inner cycles etc..

MRWalker82
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I suggest that you all watch A Universe From Nothing - Lawrence Krauss and, if you so desire, do some research on the topic. It is absolutely fascinating, and quite humbling as well.

So, no more motion would occur, and it would be like an eternal time freeze? Interesting concept.


Not only that, but all of the energy that is holding matter together would be gone as well. There would be literally nothing.
Kevin4762
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The universe isn't infinite. It will eventually run out of energy and it will go dark and die. There is nothing to debate.

MasterAndrew100
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I think that yes The Universe will run out of energy. But of my my other hypothieses is that The Sun will eventually die which would could extremely High-Scale changes in the Universe which could eliminate the existing Universe.

MRWalker82
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I think that yes The Universe will run out of energy. But of my my other hypothieses is that The Sun will eventually die which would could extremely High-Scale changes in the Universe which could eliminate the existing Universe.


Of course our sun will die. All stars eventually run out of material to fuel the fission reactions which power them and they expand exponentially before eventually going supernova and later creating a black hole. However this will only affect a small portion of our solar system, and will have no bearing on the universe as a whole.
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Of course our sun will die. All stars eventually run out of material to fuel the fission reactions which power them and they expand exponentially before eventually going supernova and later creating a black hole. However this will only affect a small portion of our solar system, and will have no bearing on the universe as a whole.


Our sun is not big enough to collapse on itself to turn into a black hole or even supernova. Your sun's life will follow a more pacifistic death.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Solar_Life_Cycle.svg

Also stars do go supernova and black hole they do either. Supernova's cast off too much material to turn into a singularity, they instead turn into neutron stars.


I think that yes The Universe will run out of energy.


Keep in my energy doesn't disappear whatever energy is lost will most likely fuel our universe again or another since entropy obviously isn't the only factor in the universe. Since we exist in an infinity universe which means that energy must of at one point collected. But that might be based on rules outside our universe.
MRWalker82
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Also stars do go supernova and black hole they do either. Supernova's cast off too much material to turn into a singularity, they instead turn into neutron stars.


Thank you for that, I wasn't 100% positive about it and was too lazy to use my google-fu.
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Actually, the particles in the atom also die one day. If you leave a Olympic pool (full of water) for a whole year, you will see at the end of the year a little spark. It is a proton (or neutron, forgot which one) that died. Now, after 1000000000x years, pretty much all the protons/neutrons will die and then...nothing. It will be dark nothing for ever. Without light or anything.

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