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MrDayCee
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A lot of people have been asking me when the new edition of the 'CRBWC' would finally start (and I'm sorry it took me so long...), but I wanted to make the second edition even better and more fun than the first one!
(In case you wonder what the first one looked like: this is the 'CRBWC 2010'.)

After hours of fun (and stress!) in figuring out the new CRBWC schematics, the gathering of info on the participating bands and fabricating the additional pictures to it all, I'm proud of the final outcome and so, without further delay, let's kick off the 2011 edition of the


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Now, some changes have been made to the second edition of this competition, so reading the rules and guidelines is something everyone needs to do, even the voters from last year's edition are advised to...


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The format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup. It has the same rules as the Soccer World Cup in terms of competitors proceeding through it, but it will follow a few rules of its own too.
Below is a short guide to elaborate the >binding rules< for this competition:


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-The 'CRBWC' consist of a total of 24 rounds being presented one at a time.
-Each round will be open for voting for a maximum of 2 weeks or untill a band reaches the points limit.


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-Each user of ArmorGames who wants to give a vote has the possibility to vote only once per round.
-All votes given by users are obligated to consist of an elaborated reasoning as to 'why' you choose these two bands. Votes lacking a proper elaborated reasoning, for example: "I like them" or "They rule", will not be counted. Elaborate on why you like them and talk about them, that's the main goal of this competition!
-Different to last year's edition, this time each vote in the group stage of this competition will consist of naming a "First choice" with with a value of 3 points and a "Second choice" with a value of 1 point.
-You only get to vote for two bands in a group. NO double voting for a single band and/or NO voting for more than two bands per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter.
-If two bands reach the limit of 30 points at the same time, the band with the most "First choices" will be declared as the winner of that round.
-The rule explained above, also applies if two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time in the 'Group Stage'.
-If, for any reason, two bands reach the limit of 30 points simultaniously and both have an equal amount of first and second choices, the band getting it's 'winning vote' first will be declared the winner.
-Further rounds after the group stage will have a 1 point count for each vote given and an according 10 points limit. Rules for declaring a winner will be applied according to the group stage rules.
-No discussions about the ruling on the outcome of a round are allowed.


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# THE GROUP STAGE:
-This stage will behold 8 different groups (A to H) consisting of 7 Classical Rock Bands to choose from.
-After closure, both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage.
-All other remaining bands are eliminated from the competition.

THE KNOCKOUT STAGE:
-After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This schedule will be followed for the rest of the groups, to clarify:
#1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I'
#1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II'
#1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III'
#1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV'
#1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V'
#1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI'
#1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII'
#1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII'

THE 1/4 FINALS:
-The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order:
# Winner I vs. Winner V
# Winner II vs. Winner VI
# Winner III vs. Winner VII
# Winner IV vs. Winner VIII

THE SEMI FINALS:
-The semi finals will be held in the order of:
# Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI
# Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII

THE 'SHADOW FINAL':
-A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals.
-Ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first.

THE FINAL MATCH:
-The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals.
-When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2011.
-The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition.


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-There will be NO playoffs held in this competition.
-You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. "Take the pain..."
-Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree with their reasoning.
-If any situation should occur that is not explained and/or guided by the thread's rules, the 'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations' and the 'Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules or else...&quot' apply and are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed.
You can find them here:
Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations
Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules, or else...&quot

Since this year's 'CRBWC' competition has a little more stuff to work with, I will start off as the sole Moderator for it, but there might be other moderators assigned over time if/when I see fit. Don't ask me for an assignment, since I will only assign people I know to have the same devotion to this competition and they will be revealed when the time comes, ok?

And last, but certainly not least... take heed:
!!! OFFICIAL AG ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BINDING WORD !!!
So, whenever an AG administrator or moderator visits this thread and decides to alter/delete a user's post or take action on an item or discussion, listen and obide to them as you would throughout the rest of the ArmorGames website.

I hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'!
So my main advice to all participants is to simply... ENJOY!!!

Now... enough with the talk... shove everything aside and...

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MrDayCee
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Oh shute... *clears throat* ..ahemhemhemmm...

And nowww... the time is nearrr...
It's time to faceee... the final curtainnn... (o.O)

Guess the curtain has fallen for Van Halen once more! Last edition they had to give up in sight of the final as well! Oh well... you decided people! =)

So here's the final score for the 2nd 1/2 Final:
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Final score count for 1/2 Final # 2 :

10 - ZZ TOP - WINNER!

5 - VAN HALEN - Eliminated...
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Before moving on to the next round...

@ nichodemus : It's probably from typing on your iPhone, but it's not the standard of posts one expects from you...

@ HahiHa : Ahm... Queen was eliminated a long time ago my friend... LOL =P

@ wajor59 : I can remember you rooting for Van Halen at some point... but I guess I'm mistaken there!

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Right... As Freddie would have said: "The show must go on!"

So, here we are, presenting the...

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Here's the information on both bands, just in case you need a refreshing of memory (doubt it) and to help you decide!

# PINK FLOYD : Official Website / Wikipedia Article
__Example Songs: Money (1973), Another Brick In The Wall - Original (1979), Comfortably Numb - Live @ Earls Court London (1980).

# Van Halen : Official Website / Wikipedia Article
__Example Songs: Jump (1984), Why Can't This Be Love - "LIVE Without A Net" (1986), Poundcake (1991).


Hope I got this right in one go! =)

As always, here are the official starting words for the battle!

On your marks... get set... ready... eddie... steady... VOTE!!! =D

Armpit
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Van Halen is a great band and listening to them doesn't require an endless amount of patience. They are definitely one of the best rock groups from the 80's.

Pink Floyd could have great music if only they knew how to make it worth listening to.

HahiHa
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No question nor doubt...

PINK FLOYD

Way more creative, talented and original. This doesn't mean that Van Halen sounds bad or boring, hell no. But in this battle Pink Floyd is simply so much more supreme than them.

Ahm... Queen was eliminated a long time ago my friend... LOL =P

*sigh* I know, I didn't mean the band Queen by that image (as I explained to wajor), although I guess this thread isn't a good choice for posting such an image...
thepyro222
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I never really liked Van halen. They're too poppy, but I've never really liked too much of pink floyd either. It's music to get high to. I don't do drugs, so I never listen to it. But, on the count of Pink Floyd being unique, and Van Halen being pretty main stream, I'm going to pink floyd.

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Wait... but both bands lost... o_O

This is the reasoning for my vote a few rounds ago for Van Halen:

My vote this round shall go to Van Halen! David's powerful voice combined with Eddie's guitar work is an unstoppable amalgam in the rock world! Eddie is also a great keyboardist!


It still applies, and I think Van Halen has the better sound out of the two competing bands!

Also I don't feel like restating myself for the third time in 10 pages... xP
dudeguy45
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Is this a joke? Pink Floyd. They have done so much more for music. Incredible lyrics/voice, psychedelically guitar and nice bass.

Ernie15
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I have a general rule for deciding battles like these.

Hair metal > not hair metal.

In the future, I would advise against battles like these, considering that both contestants have been in multiple battles already within the past 15 pages and, as Skeleton_Pilot said, everyone would just be restating recent points.

Q_File
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I'm a headbanger, not a stoner. I just can't listen to Pink Floyd and enjoy it, but Van Halen has power behind their sound.
Is that elaborative enough?

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No doubt Pink Floyd, the greatest psychedelic rock band in music history, and the second next best thing to come out of England, the first being the EPL.

Their songs, the sounds, the rhythms are all timeless, solid and sound. Compelling.

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Pink Floyd in an epic landslide. Do I need to reiterate my reasoning? Probably.. Pink Floyd gets my vote every time any time unless you're gonna put them against Blues artists. I love Eddie's guitar, but Gilmour's is way way better. And everything else pales in comparison in Pink Floyd's favor.

No brainer vote - Pink Floyd.

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Unfortunately I have to kick one of my favorite bands here So, I vote for Pink Floyd.

I'm a headbanger, not a stoner. I just can't listen to Pink Floyd and enjoy it, but Van Halen has power behind their sound.


I too am a headbanger/metalhead, but I still quite enjoy the sound of Pink Floyd, considering they're my 2nd favorite band on the planet (first being Led Zeppelin).

I also don't do drugs but I still like the psychedelic sound that Pink Floyd puts out there.

This was an extremely hard choice because Van Halen is my 3rd favorite band.

Both bands are so different and hard to compare. But, Pink Floyd tops Van Halen in their talent and commitment.

Van Halen is just as talented as Pink Floyd although, Pink Floyd is a much more tightly knit group and they adapted to what society was wanting from music better than Van Halen had.

I love Eddie's guitar, but Gilmour's is way way better.


I have to disagree here, Eddie is my favorite guitarist ever. Even though I'm voting for Pink Floyd, Eddie's is a much better guitarist than Gilmour.

So, in the end, I had to choose Pink Floyd over Van Halen.

Darn you DayCee and your despicable ways of making me choose between my favorite bands!
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Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd has better lyrics and songwriting. Three of their albums are in my top five.

Eddie's is a much better guitarist than Gilmour.


No. they're both good but Gilmour is much better
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Pink Floyd would have to be my vote. More unique I guess, plus I have one of there CDs. And I don't really like Van Halen.

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Hmm the thing with these shadow final's is that you end up re-instating your point.

As someone else said, van halen are more mainstream. Pink Floyd has better sound quality in a way and more creativity. Also, I like the lyrics to their songs more.

And with van halen, there are many bands like them. I'm sticking with pink floyd on this.

PINK FLOYD

MrDayCee
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Wait... but both bands lost...


@ Skeleton_Pilot and Ernie15 : True guys... but this battle is posted to determine which band ends up on 3rd place and which on 4th place, just like it's done in the previous edition and will be in the next one!

@ Q_File : Just perfect there! Thanx! =)

@ FALLEN950 : Ouch... that decision of yours hurted man... LOL (o.O)

I'll state my vote for Van Halen once more, as I had hoped for them to at least grasp the third spot (like last year), but it wasn't to be this time around... Eddie should have more votes in my opinion if only for his pioneering in the development of rock music, something Pink Floyd have done too, but stalled over time... Eddie however never stopped! =)

Well, it seems like PF is one vote away from claiming the 3rd spot officially, allthough un-officially... they have it already at the cost of VH as we see...
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Score count for the "Shadow Final" :

9 - PINK FLOYD
5 - VAN HALEN

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Then let's get this over with people... could someone please make the final blow? =/

*hides in plain sight shivering*
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