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MrDayCee

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Posted March 15, '11 10:10pm UTC

A lot of people have been asking me when the new edition of the 'CRBWC' would finally start (and I'm sorry it took me so long...), but I wanted to make the second edition even better and more fun than the first one!
(In case you wonder what the first one looked like: this is the 'CRBWC 2010'.)

After hours of fun (and stress!) in figuring out the new CRBWC schematics, the gathering of info on the participating bands and fabricating the additional pictures to it all, I'm proud of the final outcome and so, without further delay, let's kick off the 2011 edition of the

Now, some changes have been made to the second edition of this competition, so reading the rules and guidelines is something everyone needs to do, even the voters from last year's edition are advised to...

The format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup. It has the same rules as the Soccer World Cup in terms of competitors proceeding through it, but it will follow a few rules of its own too.
Below is a short guide to elaborate the >binding rules< for this competition:

-The 'CRBWC' consist of a total of 24 rounds being presented one at a time.
-Each round will be open for voting for a maximum of 2 weeks or untill a band reaches the points limit.

-Each user of ArmorGames who wants to give a vote has the possibility to vote only once per round.
-All votes given by users are obligated to consist of an elaborated reasoning as to 'why' you choose these two bands. Votes lacking a proper elaborated reasoning, for example: "I like them" or "They rule", will not be counted. Elaborate on why you like them and talk about them, that's the main goal of this competition!
-Different to last year's edition, this time each vote in the group stage of this competition will consist of naming a "First choice" with with a value of 3 points and a "Second choice" with a value of 1 point.
-You only get to vote for two bands in a group. NO double voting for a single band and/or NO voting for more than two bands per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter.
-If two bands reach the limit of 30 points at the same time, the band with the most "First choices" will be declared as the winner of that round.
-The rule explained above, also applies if two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time in the 'Group Stage'.
-If, for any reason, two bands reach the limit of 30 points simultaniously and both have an equal amount of first and second choices, the band getting it's 'winning vote' first will be declared the winner.
-Further rounds after the group stage will have a 1 point count for each vote given and an according 10 points limit. Rules for declaring a winner will be applied according to the group stage rules.
-No discussions about the ruling on the outcome of a round are allowed.

# THE GROUP STAGE:
-This stage will behold 8 different groups (A to H) consisting of 7 Classical Rock Bands to choose from.
-After closure, both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage.
-All other remaining bands are eliminated from the competition.

THE KNOCKOUT STAGE:
-After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This schedule will be followed for the rest of the groups, to clarify:
#1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I'
#1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II'
#1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III'
#1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV'
#1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V'
#1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI'
#1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII'
#1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII'

THE 1/4 FINALS:
-The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order:
# Winner I vs. Winner V
# Winner II vs. Winner VI
# Winner III vs. Winner VII
# Winner IV vs. Winner VIII

THE SEMI FINALS:
-The semi finals will be held in the order of:
# Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI
# Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII

THE 'SHADOW FINAL':
-A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals.
-Ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first.

THE FINAL MATCH:
-The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals.
-When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2011.
-The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition.

-There will be NO playoffs held in this competition.
-You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. "Take the pain..."
-Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree with their reasoning.
-If any situation should occur that is not explained and/or guided by the thread's rules, the 'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations' and the 'Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules or else...&quot' apply and are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed.
You can find them here:
Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations
Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules, or else...&quot

Since this year's 'CRBWC' competition has a little more stuff to work with, I will start off as the sole Moderator for it, but there might be other moderators assigned over time if/when I see fit. Don't ask me for an assignment, since I will only assign people I know to have the same devotion to this competition and they will be revealed when the time comes, ok?

And last, but certainly not least... take heed:
!!! OFFICIAL AG ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BINDING WORD !!!
So, whenever an AG administrator or moderator visits this thread and decides to alter/delete a user's post or take action on an item or discussion, listen and obide to them as you would throughout the rest of the ArmorGames website.

I hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'!
So my main advice to all participants is to simply... ENJOY!!!

Now... enough with the talk... shove everything aside and...

A lot of people have been asking me when the new edition of the 'CRBWC' would finally start (and I'm sorry it took me so long...), but I wanted to make the second edition even better and more fun than the first one! ;)\r\n(In case you wonder what the first one looked like: [url=armorgames.com/community/thread/5280188/crbwc-2010-the-classic-rock-bands-world-cup]this is the 'CRBWC 2010'[/url].)\r\n\r\nAfter hours of fun (and stress!) in figuring out the new CRBWC schematics, the gathering of info on the participating bands and fabricating the additional pictures to it all, I'm proud of the final outcome and so, without further delay, let's kick off the 2011 edition of the\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5529788999_de0e158858.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n\r\nNow, some changes have been made to the second edition of this competition, so reading the rules and guidelines is something everyone needs to do, [i]even the voters from last year's edition are advised to[/i]...\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5097/5530376806_b698294b37.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\nThe format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup. It has the same rules as the Soccer World Cup in terms of competitors proceeding through it, but it will follow a few rules of its own too.\r\nBelow is a short guide to elaborate the [b]>binding rules<[/b] for this competition:\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5529789379_02f0090bc2_m.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n-The 'CRBWC' consist of a total of 24 rounds being presented one at a time.\r\n-Each round will be open for voting for a maximum of 2 weeks or untill a band reaches the points limit.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5529789643_2c342038b7.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n-Each user of ArmorGames who wants to give a vote has the possibility to vote only [i]once per round[/i].\r\n-All votes given by users are obligated to consist of an [i]elaborated reasoning[/i] as to 'why' you choose these two bands. Votes lacking a proper elaborated reasoning, for example: "I like them" or "They rule", will not be counted. Elaborate on why you like them and talk about them, that's the main goal of this competition!\r\n-Different to last year's edition, this time each vote in the group stage of this competition will consist of naming a [i]"First choice"[/i] with with a value of [i]3 points[/i] and a [i]"Second choice"[/i] with a value of [i]1 point[/i].\r\n-You only get to vote for two bands in a group. NO double voting for a single band and/or NO voting for more than two bands per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter.\r\n-If two bands reach the limit of 30 points at the same time, the band with the most "First choices" will be declared as the winner of that round.\r\n-The rule explained above, also applies if two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time in the 'Group Stage'.\r\n-If, for any reason, two bands reach the limit of 30 points simultaniously and both have an equal amount of first and second choices, the band getting it's 'winning vote' first will be declared the winner.\r\n-Further rounds after the group stage will have a 1 point count for each vote given and an according 10 points limit. Rules for declaring a winner will be applied according to the group stage rules.\r\n-No discussions about the ruling on the outcome of a round are allowed.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5529789699_ba98e181f8.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n[b]# THE GROUP STAGE:[/b]\r\n-This stage will behold 8 different groups (A to H) consisting of 7 Classical Rock Bands to choose from.\r\n-After closure, both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage.\r\n-All other remaining bands are eliminated from the competition.\r\n\r\n[b]THE KNOCKOUT STAGE:[/b]\r\n-After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This schedule will be followed for the rest of the groups, to clarify:\r\n#1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I')\r\n#1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II')\r\n#1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III')\r\n#1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV')\r\n#1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V')\r\n#1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI')\r\n#1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII')\r\n#1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII')\r\n\r\n[b]THE 1/4 FINALS:[/b]\r\n-The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order:\r\n# Winner I vs. Winner V\r\n# Winner II vs. Winner VI\r\n# Winner III vs. Winner VII\r\n# Winner IV vs. Winner VIII\r\n\r\n[b]THE SEMI FINALS:[/b]\r\n-The semi finals will be held in the order of:\r\n# Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI\r\n# Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII\r\n\r\n[b]THE 'SHADOW FINAL':[/b]\r\n-A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals.\r\n-Ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first.\r\n\r\n[b]THE FINAL MATCH:[/b]\r\n-The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals.\r\n-When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2011.\r\n-The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5530377280_41f3830f0c.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n-There will be NO playoffs held in this competition.\r\n-You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. "Take the pain..."\r\n-Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree with their reasoning.\r\n-If any situation should occur that is not explained and/or guided by the thread's rules, the [i]'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations'[/i] and the [i]'Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules or else...")'[/i] apply and are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed.\r\nYou can find them here:\r\n[b][url=armorgames.com/page/Forum-Rules]Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations[/url][/b]\r\n[b][url=armorgames.com/community/thread/6635103/read-these-rules-or-else]Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules, or else...")[/url][/b]\r\n\r\nSince this year's 'CRBWC' competition has a little more stuff to work with, I will start off as the sole Moderator for it, but there might be other moderators assigned over time if/when I see fit. Don't ask me for an assignment, since I will only assign people I know to have the same devotion to this competition and they will be revealed when the time comes, ok? ;)\r\n\r\nAnd last, but certainly not least... take heed:\r\n[b]!!! OFFICIAL AG ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BINDING WORD !!![/b]\r\nSo, whenever an AG administrator or moderator visits this thread and decides to alter/delete a user's post or take action on an item or discussion, listen and obide to them as you would throughout the rest of the ArmorGames website.\r\n\r\nI hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'!\r\nSo my main advice to all participants is to simply... ENJOY!!! :)\r\n\r\nNow... enough with the talk... shove everything aside and...\r\n\r\n[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5530376744_2f3a765af7_m.jpg[/img]

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ilberic

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Jester

Posted February 1, '12 6:22am UTC

Idk... i like them both but The eagles win today!

but the real question is why they win today, in your opinion? or will this opinion change tomorrow? or do they have enough of something you like for them to win every day?

questions, questions, questions.... got any answers?

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nichodemus

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Grand Duke

Posted February 1, '12 7:23am UTC

Now....if only my dad had an AG Account....big Eagles fan.

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MrDayCee

14,745 posts

King

Posted February 1, '12 9:23am UTC

Well nichodemus... what's stopping you from bully-ing him into making one?! We need the votes!!! LOL =P

@ schmiddy1234 : Please provide a reasoning, you know the rules of these threads by now... no reasoning = no vote counted! =/
As soon as you state a reasoning, I'll add a +1 for the Eagles on your behalf!

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nichodemus

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Grand Duke

Posted February 1, '12 9:30am UTC

Not that, but the fact that he doesn't really like to use the internet.

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MrDayCee

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King

Posted February 1, '12 7:11pm UTC

Pshh... that's easy! Just tell him that you think that 'cool dads' use the internet all the time! See if he's easily persuaded that way? Heheheh... =P

And another fact... what easier way to search for and listen to those great bands from the 70's and 80's?! HA! =D

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waluigi

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Shepherd

Posted February 1, '12 8:39pm UTC

Don't hate me for saying this, but... I hope your preference of bands is not entirely based on how these bands are universally appreciated... I know you're much more versatile than that!

I'm not offended, and don't worry, its not based on that. Remember, I'm the only guy the voted for Crosby, Stills & Nash in one of the earlier rounds Plus, I do love the Eagles. I just like U2 a little better.

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MrDayCee

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King

Posted February 1, '12 9:26pm UTC

I'm not offended, and don't worry, its not based on that.

Glad to hear that, I was feeling a little worried there...

Remember, I'm the only guy the voted for Crosby, Stills & Nash in one of the earlier rounds

Oh yes, I forgot that, but you're right... this only confirms your wide variety in music appreciation, so you're versatile enough allright my friend! =)

Plus, I do love the Eagles. I just like U2 a little better.

Fair enough... everyone's entitled to his/her preferences here! That's what the competition is for!

[INFO] I'll be gathering suggestions for bands to feature in the next CRBWC competition! Just send me a comment on my profile and I'll make a list. There are no rocksolid guarantees your suggestion will be featured, but all suggestions are welcome! All suggestions must be within the genre of classic rock of course... thanx! =)

[quote]I'm not offended, and don't worry, its not based on that.[/quote]\r\n\r\nGlad to hear that, I was feeling a little worried there... ;)\r\n\r\n[quote]Remember, I'm the only guy the voted for Crosby, Stills & Nash in one of the earlier rounds :D[/quote]\r\n\r\nOh yes, I forgot that, but you're right... this only confirms your wide variety in music appreciation, so you're versatile enough allright my friend! =)\r\n\r\n[quote]Plus, I do love the Eagles. I just like U2 a little better.[/quote]\r\n\r\nFair enough... everyone's entitled to his/her preferences here! That's what the competition is for! ;)\r\n\r\n[b][INFO] I'll be gathering suggestions for bands to feature in the next CRBWC competition! Just send me a [url=armorgames.com/user/MrDayCee#messenger]comment on my profile[/url] and I'll make a list. There are no rocksolid guarantees your suggestion will be featured, but all suggestions are welcome! All suggestions must be within the genre of classic rock of course... thanx! =)[/b]

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Maverick4

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Posted February 1, '12 10:35pm UTC

I'm going with U2 on this one. I'm not too fond of anything they've done after the late 80s, but they started out great. Sunday Bloody Sunday is a classic, and really one of their best songs.

Besides, I was never really into the Eagles.

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AgathaB

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Nomad

Posted February 1, '12 11:05pm UTC

I'll go with the Eagles. I favour their style a lot more than U2's, plus my ears can't really stand Bono's vocals. The whole emphasis on vocals ruins U2's effect for me. I think I'd much prefer them without Bono's vocals. Eagles' style sits much better with me.

Not that in terms of personal preference I'd go for one or the other. I'm not a great fan of either.

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AgathaB

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Nomad

Posted February 1, '12 11:07pm UTC

Y'know, editing posts would come in real handy right now. I just saw I used the word 'vocals' three times in the space of three sentences. It sounds really very pretentious. Just pretend I said 'voice' in that last sentence.

Oh, and I have to add something.

I consider it funny that I don't particularly like country, but its influence on the Eagles is one of the things I like about that band.

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MrDayCee

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Posted February 2, '12 3:56pm UTC

@ AgathaB : Really? You can't stand Bono's "voice"?
I have to admit that he is one of the vocalists that has a distinctive sound, something a lot of other bands and their vocalists seem to lack sometimes... probably a reason why bands with 'mainstream lead vocals' don't become popular like the ones that have those distinctive voices out there! =0
And sometimes the blending with- or being influenced by- a certain other genre of music can make for some nice rock music you know! It's all about finding the sound of a band that becomes a particular signature over time!

Allright then... some more votes in, but the Eagles stay ahead of U2 by ONE tiny vote! Exciting!! =D

Score count up to now shows :
___________________________________

K.O. round # C :

4 - U2
5 - The Eagles
___________________________________

Will U2 make it past the Eagles or will they in turn give them a decisive blow and make a gap?!

It's all up to you people! State your votes and decide the faith of these bands in battle! VOTE!!! =D

[b]@ AgathaB :[/b] Really? You can't stand Bono's "[i]voice[/i]"? ;)\r\nI have to admit that he is one of the vocalists that has a distinctive sound, something a lot of other bands and their vocalists seem to lack sometimes... probably a reason why bands with 'mainstream lead vocals' don't become popular like the ones that have those distinctive voices out there! =0\r\nAnd sometimes the blending with- or being influenced by- a certain other genre of music can make for some nice rock music you know! It's all about finding the sound of a band that becomes a particular signature over time! ;)\r\n\r\nAllright then... some more votes in, but the Eagles stay ahead of U2 by [i]ONE[/i] tiny vote! Exciting!! =D\r\n\r\nScore count up to now shows :\r\n___________________________________\r\n\r\n[b]K.O. round # C :\r\n\r\n4 - U2\r\n5 - The Eagles[/b]\r\n___________________________________\r\n\r\nWill U2 make it past the Eagles or will they in turn give them a decisive blow and make a gap?!\r\n\r\nIt's all up to you people! State your votes and decide the faith of these bands in battle! [b]VOTE!!![/b] =D

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AgathaB

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Nomad

Posted February 2, '12 5:16pm UTC

Really? You can't stand Bono's "voice"?

Yup, his 'voice'. :P

I have to admit that he is one of the vocalists that has a distinctive sound, something a lot of other bands and their vocalists seem to lack sometimes... probably a reason why bands with 'mainstream lead vocals' don't become popular like the ones that have those distinctive voices out there! =0

True, but I just don't like his in particular. I find him whiny and overrated. The slight nasal quality really throws me off.

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MrDayCee

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King

Posted February 2, '12 7:51pm UTC

True, but I just don't like his in particular. I find him whiny and overrated. The slight nasal quality really throws me off.

That's fair enough... there actually are some bands I don't favour because of this, "really? - Yes!" (o.O)

I can't even think about which ones they are simply because of the lack of interest in them! LOL

Let's just say that it's nice that there are so many different interests for so many different people! Makes for a wide choice in music and not a grey matter to choose from... think of how the conversations would be?!
A: "Hey, want do you think of 'band X'? They rock man!"
B: "Nah, I don't care that much for them, I think 'band X' is way better!"
A: "Aren't those the same band?!"
B: "Oh, yes... you're right!"
A: "Now... what?!"
B: "I don't know..."
*end of conversation*

Pretty lame outcome, if you ask me! =P

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Maverick4

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Peasant

Posted February 2, '12 11:30pm UTC

I have to admit that he is one of the vocalists that has a distinctive sound, something a lot of other bands and their vocalists seem to lack sometimes

REM. Thats a distinctive sound.

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AgathaB

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Nomad

Posted February 2, '12 11:46pm UTC

Pretty lame outcome, if you ask me! =P

Again you speak the truth. Variety is definitely of the good. Particularly when, like me, you tend to enjoy lots of different things. I've spent the evening ironing while singing along with David Bowie (one of my old time favourites) and right now I'm watching the Into The Woods musical by Stephen Sondheim.

REM. Thats a distinctive sound.

Oh yeah. I quite like REM.

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