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MrDayCee
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A lot of people have been asking me when the new edition of the 'CRBWC' would finally start (and I'm sorry it took me so long...), but I wanted to make the second edition even better and more fun than the first one!
(In case you wonder what the first one looked like: this is the 'CRBWC 2010'.)

After hours of fun (and stress!) in figuring out the new CRBWC schematics, the gathering of info on the participating bands and fabricating the additional pictures to it all, I'm proud of the final outcome and so, without further delay, let's kick off the 2011 edition of the


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Now, some changes have been made to the second edition of this competition, so reading the rules and guidelines is something everyone needs to do, even the voters from last year's edition are advised to...


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The format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup. It has the same rules as the Soccer World Cup in terms of competitors proceeding through it, but it will follow a few rules of its own too.
Below is a short guide to elaborate the >binding rules< for this competition:


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-The 'CRBWC' consist of a total of 24 rounds being presented one at a time.
-Each round will be open for voting for a maximum of 2 weeks or untill a band reaches the points limit.


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-Each user of ArmorGames who wants to give a vote has the possibility to vote only once per round.
-All votes given by users are obligated to consist of an elaborated reasoning as to 'why' you choose these two bands. Votes lacking a proper elaborated reasoning, for example: "I like them" or "They rule", will not be counted. Elaborate on why you like them and talk about them, that's the main goal of this competition!
-Different to last year's edition, this time each vote in the group stage of this competition will consist of naming a "First choice" with with a value of 3 points and a "Second choice" with a value of 1 point.
-You only get to vote for two bands in a group. NO double voting for a single band and/or NO voting for more than two bands per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter.
-If two bands reach the limit of 30 points at the same time, the band with the most "First choices" will be declared as the winner of that round.
-The rule explained above, also applies if two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time in the 'Group Stage'.
-If, for any reason, two bands reach the limit of 30 points simultaniously and both have an equal amount of first and second choices, the band getting it's 'winning vote' first will be declared the winner.
-Further rounds after the group stage will have a 1 point count for each vote given and an according 10 points limit. Rules for declaring a winner will be applied according to the group stage rules.
-No discussions about the ruling on the outcome of a round are allowed.


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# THE GROUP STAGE:
-This stage will behold 8 different groups (A to H) consisting of 7 Classical Rock Bands to choose from.
-After closure, both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage.
-All other remaining bands are eliminated from the competition.

THE KNOCKOUT STAGE:
-After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This schedule will be followed for the rest of the groups, to clarify:
#1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I'
#1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II'
#1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III'
#1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV'
#1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V'
#1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI'
#1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII'
#1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII'

THE 1/4 FINALS:
-The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order:
# Winner I vs. Winner V
# Winner II vs. Winner VI
# Winner III vs. Winner VII
# Winner IV vs. Winner VIII

THE SEMI FINALS:
-The semi finals will be held in the order of:
# Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI
# Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII

THE 'SHADOW FINAL':
-A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals.
-Ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first.

THE FINAL MATCH:
-The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals.
-When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2011.
-The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition.


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-There will be NO playoffs held in this competition.
-You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. "Take the pain..."
-Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree with their reasoning.
-If any situation should occur that is not explained and/or guided by the thread's rules, the 'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations' and the 'Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules or else...&quot' apply and are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed.
You can find them here:
Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations
Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules, or else...&quot

Since this year's 'CRBWC' competition has a little more stuff to work with, I will start off as the sole Moderator for it, but there might be other moderators assigned over time if/when I see fit. Don't ask me for an assignment, since I will only assign people I know to have the same devotion to this competition and they will be revealed when the time comes, ok?

And last, but certainly not least... take heed:
!!! OFFICIAL AG ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BINDING WORD !!!
So, whenever an AG administrator or moderator visits this thread and decides to alter/delete a user's post or take action on an item or discussion, listen and obide to them as you would throughout the rest of the ArmorGames website.

I hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'!
So my main advice to all participants is to simply... ENJOY!!!

Now... enough with the talk... shove everything aside and...

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delossantosj
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zeppelin beats pink floyd on almost all levels as well. id tie them on lyricism but that would be about it

calebsi
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Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd is definitely my favorite band in this competition. What really matters to me in a band is songwriting and vocals. I would take Pink Floyd in both of those categories. Although Led Zeppelin had better musicians, Plant's voice can get really obnoxious sometimes.

ViceGhost
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Most of the music I listen to is older hard rock, and Led Zeppelin is probably the best hard rock group before 1980. That's an opinion though. Pink Floyd makes you think with their lyrics, but to me they sound like they lack emotion.

Armpit
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Zeppelin is the winner of this round for me. No question. I've always taken them for granted, but comparing them to Pink Floyd made me realize what a great band Led Zeppelin really is. Everything about a Zeppelin song you can appreciate, including the vocals for those of you who find Robert Plant's voice bothersome.

Now why would I have a problem with Pink Floyd? They're all very talented musicians. What are they missing? The ability to make their music sound interesting. Something that makes the song worth listening to. Jimmy Page's guitar work is distinctive enough so that you can tell which song is playing just by the riffs. If you asked me to identify a Pink Floyd song, I wouldn't be able to because they all sound about the same to me.

I don't hate Pink Floyd, for the record. I just don't see why they're so highly praised.

waluigi
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This has to be the hardest battle for me yet, but my vote will fall for Pink Floyd. Though Jimmy Page is considered one of the greatest guitarists of all time, I have greater appreciation for what David Gilmore can do. Don't get me wrong, I love Jimmy Page's playing, I just like David Gilmore's better.
Also, Roger Waters' songwriting is superior to Led Zeppelin's, mainly due to the fact that most songs having nothing to do with sex, unlike Zeppelin.

MrDayCee
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@ Maverick4 : Your vote was a sure bet for me! With or without you wearing your Pink Floyd t-shirt...

Ok, you're just getting on my nerves now DayCee...


@ Fallen950 : My sole purpose in life... if it comes to music that is! LOL =P

You might as well have put them against my nephews and niece playing their paper jam guitars..


@ ilberic : Are your nephew and niece THAT good?! =)

Some battles I just can't sit out... this one I just HAVE to vote in! It's not that I dislike Pink Floyd, but Led Zeppelin beats them without even having to lift a finger, or -speaking in music terms- having to strike a chord! Led Zeppelin is one of the pillars Rock (and Metal) was build upon and surely deserves my vote for every high pitched note sung, every drum roll beaten, every riff played, making them and awesome 'age' in the history of Rock (and Metal) music allover the world!! Led Zeppelin gets my vote!

So with my personal vote in the bag, there's a small lead occuring in score count :
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Score count for 1/2 Final # 1 :

8 - Led Zeppelin
6 - Pink Floyd

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The score went upward side by side for a long while, but now Led Zeppelin ahs taken a small 2 points lead over Pink Floyd! Will they make it back alongside them or even overtake in the final sprint?! You decide!! VOTE PEOPLE!!! =D
wajor59
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I'm sorry for chiming in so late in the round and thank you for keeping this open for us a little longer, DayC, xx

I have often wondered how I would vote if I had to choose between these two giants...

Led Zeppelin has to have recognition for all of the talent, lyrics, musical scores for orchestra, etc. I'm sure record sales are far beyond Pink Floyd's but...



Pink Floyd lyrics and music speaks to me like no other band I know except for Deep Purple.
I have recently been listening to The Wall (for the how many-eth time) and The Trial is still one of the funniest songs I've ever heard a rock group sing and still be taken seriously at the same time. The lyrics are written about British woes but can be used for metaphors to explain the turmoil of the '70's. Very few performers give me the chills when they play an instrument or sing but Pink Floyd always has and always will. Just call me..."crazy, toys 'n the attic, I am crazy" the chord change in that one line is awesome!

daleks
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Well this is getting really interesting, especially because I am voting for Pink Floyd. I like the sound of Pink Floyd better then Led Zeppelin. The style of Pink Floyd is also better then Led Zeppelin's in my opinion. Plus I have a Pink Floyd album at home.

MrAutomatic
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It's a tough call but Led Zeppelin takes the cake this round. Rock could have evolved without Pink Floyd, but Led Zeppelin helped shape rock music into what it is today. Contrary to the general opinion here, I prefer Led Zeppelin's lyrics over Pink Floyd's, because I get the vibe from Pink Floyd that they're trying to be weird. I don't respect that in a band, because you don't have to try to be weird.

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It's a difficult choice. I am quite fond of both bands. Truly great bands, very innovative and influential.

But, I am going to vote for Led Zeppelin, their music is just a little more to my liking. Plus, Immigrant Song is one of my all time favorite songs.

MrDayCee
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It looked like Pink Floyd was catching up on Led Zeppelin for a moment there, but the final two votes made it... final! So, this means that the first finalist is decided for the last round! =D
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Final score count for 1/2 Final # 1 :

10 - Led Zeppelin - WINNER!

8 - Pink Floyd - Eliminated...
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On with the other 1/2 Final to decide the other finalist! Presenting...

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And here's the information about both bands to help decide which band to choose! =)

# VAN HALEN : Official Website / Wikipedia Article
__Example Songs: Unchained (1981), Jump (1984), Why Can't This Be Love - "LIVE Without A Net" (1986), Poundcake (1991).

# ZZ Top : Official Website / Wikipedia Article
__Example Songs : La Grange (1973), Gimme All Your Lovin' (1983), Sharp Dressed Man (1983), Legs (1984).


And as always, here are the official starting words for the battle!

On your marks... get set... ready... eddie... steady... VOTE!!! =D

Maverick4
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8 - Pink Floyd - Eliminated...


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ZZ Top, as La Grange is awesome. It's one of the iconic tunes to classic rock, and really should be one of the first things you think of when thinking about Classic Rock (thinkception?). And also because I hate Van Halen.
thepyro222
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I have to vote for ZZ Top. They're more original and they play a better stlye of music

ilberic
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I should sit out this thread in protest of Pink Floyd losing to, well, anybody. But due to my undying commitment to all threads DayCee... on to the vote.

My vote is for ZZ Top. I love love love both bands, but Van Hagar kind of gets monotonous, and Van Charone was just an abomination while ZZ Top never made that type of mistake. Plus, if you're going to kick my beloved Pink Floyd out of the thread, then I'll have to ride my Blues-Rock ZZ "To The" Top.

Vote - ZZ Top

valboss84
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I vote ZZ Top for this amazing rock and roll groove. I love "La Grange" epic song. Nice style with their beards.
And I'm not a great fan of Van Halen, they does basic rock.

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