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Sssssnnaakke
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Ok today a girl I was talking to randomly said that she was a lesbian. I asked her if anyone else knew and she said no. So what am I supposed to do since in her religion it is bad to be a lesbian.

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wolf1991
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Did I say I wanted to kill homosexuals?


No, but the bible does. I was refering to the bible. Your intolerance for diversity is plain enough, there's no need to bring it up everytime.

why are you athiests so insistant on imposing your beliefs on others?


I blame the Priests of Awesome.

But, in all seriousness atheism (for the millionth time) is NOT a religion. Atheists do not HAVE beliefs they force on people. Do we become annoyed with people running around being discrimitory because of some 2000 year old book, which has degraded into a poktical tool, yes. Do we go around knocking on your door trying to convert you? No.

Yet in my entire life I have never met any religious person, Catholic, Jew, Muslim or otherwise, that has tried to convert anyone


Ever meet a Jehova Witness?

And it's very clear in the comments in this thread. Just ignorant


Allow me to educate you in the School of Ignorance because you seem to be mistaken.

Ignorance: Lack of knowledge or information.

Now, does it sound like I'm being ignorant? I fully accept homosexuals for who they are, and do not try to change them. I myself am not homosexual, but I accept and embrace the idea that we are all equals and therefore must be treated with the same respect and decency as we wish to be treated.

I do not say things such as:
Just tell her that there is a magic cure out there. it's called atheism.
Or:
Just hit her until she realizes men are hot (for women) and being straight is awesome.


That sir, is ignorance.
loloynage2
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And how am I imposing my believes again? I was just saying that you didn't understand **** of the post I made.

wolf1991
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And how am I imposing my believes again? I was just saying that you didn't understand **** of the post I made.


Calm thyself. No need to be angry, I'll spar with them

As Yoda said, "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."
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Calm thyself. No need to be angry, I'll spar with them

As Yoda said, "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Very true. Sorry V.V
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You basically came on this thread saying that everyone is stupid or post idiotic comments, and you are higher then all of us.


I definitely don't think I am higher than anyone on this thread. And not everyone on here is stupid. But any comments like "hit her until she's straight again" or similar are very stupid. And if you can't see that, well then I think we all know what category you'd fit in to.

all the religious people are wonderful people and victims of the demons that are atheists trying to trow our lack of believe on you poor creatures


Religious people are not victims. Most athiest are not demons. Nice try to twist my words.
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Religious people are not victims. Most athiest are not demons. Nice try to twist my words.


Wait, most? You wouldn't happen to be referring to me in that comment, would you?

why are you athiests so insistant on imposing your beliefs on others?


I think this situation is a good example. A religion is acting as a chain to this poor lass who, do to the fetters of religion, has been convinced to deny her sexuality, or so it seems to me.

There was a time when that was the chief criticism of relgious people, that they tried to convert other pagans or non-believers.


Actually I always thought the chief criticism of religion was the millions of deaths it has caused..

Yet in my entire life I have never met any religious person, Catholic, Jew, Muslim or otherwise, that has tried to convert anyone.


How old are you? Many religious people go door to door attempting to receive converts.
But the number of athiests that I have heard say things like this just astound me. And it's very clear in the comments in this thread. Just ignorant.


So it is clear from the comments of this thread that she should leave this idiotic religion that is trying to say she is born into the wrong sexuality, somehow makes atheist bad?
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You wouldn't happen to be referring to me in that comment, would you?


no, but you have a cool armatar

I think this situation is a good example. A religion is acting as a chain to this poor lass who, do to the fetters of religion, has been convinced to deny her sexuality, or so it seems to me.


it certainly can go both ways, but in this thread (as well as in my personal life) I have encountered more "evangelical" athiests than religious people *note: I use the term evangelical very loosely, please don't jump all over it*

Many religious people go door to door attempting to receive converts.


yes, that is true, but these people are in a minority. Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and most other major religions don't do this. Jehovah's witness's and probably a few other minor religions do. *note: I say minor as in total number of followers, not that they are inferior in any way. Again, please don't jump all over this one either

she should leave this idiotic religion that is trying to say she is born into the wrong sexuality,


I don't think she has to. I think she should just stay clear of the ignorant religious types who would persecute her for her sexuality. Not all religious people are that ignorant, but I am not so naive to say that all the tolerant religions actually practice what they preach
Cranium80
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Tell someone your atheist, 9/10 times, they will attempt to convert you to their faith.


that may be your experience, but that has never happened to me. Either as an Athiest or as a Catholic.
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Religious people are not victims. Most athiest are not demons. Nice try to twist my words


You know debating and arguments are much a like. The differences in opinions, sometimes the lack of knowledge or common sense. . . etc. But a debate is the civil side for debaters realize this naivety of a rare others and respectively show their opinions and side and will justify their claims with reliable references. But they will never palliate or undermine an other. So be the bigger person and let bygones be bygones and don't disrespect others and "be a debater not a hater". (<- bumper sticker material!)
In all seriousness do on to others as you'd see done to you.

The stupidity of this offends me as an atheist, a scientist and a gay man.

To all those who think being gay is a choice, choose to be gay. Go out, have **** sex, masturbate to gay porn, enjoy male on male sex, tell your parents, your pastor that you are gay. Do this for a year. Then come talk to me. Otherwise, kindly shut your ignorant and naive orifice you call a mouth.

Second, Will someone please get the religious folks a dictionary? Because they keep using words they clearly don't know the meaning of.


This was a very serendipitous post to me, but I agree, as an atheist, a scientist-ish (I will be one in due time), and a straight man.
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it certainly can go both ways, but in this thread (as well as in my personal life) I have encountered more "evangelical" athiests than religious people *note: I use the term evangelical very loosely, please don't jump all over it*


So how many atheist go around with signs that say "GOD HATES ***ES!"? I personally don't know any, or really any homophobic atheists. It makes it alot harder to hate something when you actually have to think of a reason.

yes, that is true, but these people are in a minority.


That would depend on where you live, now wouldn't it?

Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and most other major religions don't do this.


No, they just go missionary and cross seas to preach to poor starving humans that a magic faerie cares about them and wants to torture them with this horrible affliction for some odd reason or another...

I don't think she has to


I said should. She could just ignore the homophobic passages in the Bible, like she probably does with all the other passages that show Yahweh in a bad light, and there are many of those...

I think she should just stay clear of the ignorant religious types who would persecute her for her sexuality


Or she could just go against a religion that says that she should be stoned...

Not all religious people are that ignorant, but I am not so naive to say that all the tolerant religions actually practice what they preach


Tolerant religions? Their are none. Though there may be many who go against the homophobic belief in the Bible, the Bible itself is homophobic. Your lucky they don't actually practice what they preach, or this poor girl would be stoned by now.
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it certainly can go both ways, but in this thread (as well as in my personal life) I have encountered more "evangelical" athiests than religious people *note: I use the term evangelical very loosely, please don't jump all over it*


*blinks* I'm trying to understand this, but I can't. What the hell is an "evangelical" atheist, and how can you use it lightly when you shouldn't be using it at all, because it makes not one iota of sense.
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What the hell is an "evangelical" atheist,


evangelical christians are the ones who really push their faith into any/everyone's faces. Trying to convert people, performing "miracles" and "faith healings" etc., so I *******ized the term and applied it to Atheists who like to push their belief (or lack there of) onto others.

So how many atheist go around with signs that say "GOD HATES ***ES!"?

probably the same number as catholics in my area do.

Tolerant religions? Their are none.

There are many tolerant religions. True Christianity and true Islam are very tolerant. Only when taken to extremes by extrimists do they become violent religions. The same is very true of Judaism

That would depend on where you live, now wouldn't it?

I think that's true of just about everything we've said so far.
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applied it to Atheists who like to push their belief (or lack there of) onto others.


No, I still don't get it. Last time I checked majority of atheists don't do anything unless someone is exceptionally stupid. Like "EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY LOLLOLOLOLOLOL!" stupid.

There are many tolerant religions

I know one. Bhudism.

True Christianity and true Islam are very tolerant. Only when taken to extremes by extrimists do they become violent religions. The same is very true of Judaism


So...they're Communism? They look good on paper, but apply it to humans and the world starts ending.
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probably the same number as catholics in my area do.


And where is your aria? I checked "Behind Me", but all I found was idiots protesting funerals and other random things using religious, and none of them where atheists.

True Christianity and true Islam are very tolerant


True Christianity:

Lev.18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev.20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.

2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

And that is just what I find in five seconds...

True Islam:

8:12
I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

47:4
Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens.

* 7:80-1 "And Lot! (Remember) when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you? Lo! ye come with lust unto men instead of women. Nay, but ye are wanton folk."

* 26:165-6 "What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, And leave the wives your Lord created for you ? Nay, but ye are froward folk."

* 27:54-55 "And Lot! when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination knowingly? Must ye needs lust after men instead of women ? Nay, but ye are folk who act senselessly."

* 29:28-29 "And Lot! (Remember) when he said unto his folk: Lo! ye commit lewdness such as no creature did before you. For come ye not in unto males."

True religions are a lot worse.

I think that's true of just about everything we've said so far.


If by that you mean the planet earth...
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So...they're Communism? They look good on paper, but apply it to humans and the world starts ending.


is your world ending?
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