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Kevin4762
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Very general topic.

Now, what I want to know is what you think your favourite form of government is and why.

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Xzeno
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I like the Greek style of democracy, through it took a long time to get stuff done.
Really? Because I like equality instead of only allowing rich males to vote.

Democracy sucks. Example: More than half the population is against equal marriage rights for homosexuals. A good percentage of the population thought the Westboro Baptist Church shouldn't be allowed their free speech. Most people seem to be against zoophilia on some level or another.

Direct democracy is just tyranny of the majority. There must be constraints on the voters' ability to choose. Constitutional democracy strikes me as a reasonable solution.
FireflyIV
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Yes but in the greek democracy, anyone could take the floor to speak.


In ancient Athens the franchise was very limited and the population of the city state itself was vastly smaller than a comparable modern nation state. It was a fairly inefficient back then. Lord knows how dysfunctional it would be if implemented today.
ML9934
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just the prehistoric "no government". only hunting and doing nothing

Kevin4762
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A republic is best, where Congress makes all the laws and the executive has no say in them.

Maverick4
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Gonna quote some TJ:

'Government is best which governs least'.

Representative Republic, but districts are smaller, so more people are represented. The Government would only pass legislation dealing with the nation as a whole, while a State/District/etc, would only pass legislation dealing with the state. A truly free-market society would make this complete.

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Well i think that governments have become too corrupt. Did you know that in japan dolphins are being slaughtered. And they have very intelligent minds. so it's not ouch ouch pointy stuff stabbing me. It's more like Ahhhhh! Mommy NOOOO! Daddy NOOOO! soooo much blood! Ahhhhh! And their meat is sold in japan as whale meat. People don't know this though. They also don't know that the same meat has high levels of mercury radiation. If that happens in japan, i can't imagine what happens here.

Dragonblaze052
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Dolphins are whales.

I do believe it was Thomas Jefferson who once said, "A government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have."

Einfach
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just the prehistoric "no government". only hunting and doing nothing

Such a world could only support a few million people at most. Are you really willing to kill 6 billion people for this to be achieved?
A republic is best, where Congress makes all the laws and the executive has no say in them.

Don't republics (without a bill of rights) have the potential for tyranny? Because those who make themselves out to be the majority receive the right to impose on the rest.
Kevin4762
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Don't republics (without a bill of rights) have the potential for tyranny? Because those who make themselves out to be the majority receive the right to impose on the rest.


Let me see if can translate to proper English.

"Don't republics, without a written code of restrictions, have the potential to become tyrannical, because those in power and hold the majority, impose on the minority?"

My answer, is yes, they do have the potential. My statement still stands. Republics are the best forms of government.

Any further questions?
Einfach
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My answer, is yes, they do have the potential. My statement still stands. Republics are the best forms of government.

You must include a bill of rights, as a government with a bill of rights is thus superior to one without.
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Dictator ship.

why?

absolute power.

A "good" dictator that doesnt do evil things makes for a good kingdom/country/state/island/place/area.

EnterOrion
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Libertarian Constitutional Monarchy.

A strong leader, a stronger government, and it all amounts to something that stays the hell out of my business.

I know it's impossible, but I like to think is.

Einfach
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Libertarian Constitutional Monarchy.

Hmm...

The idea of "strong government" + "free market" sounds more neoconservative than libertarian to me...if you mean that strong government in terms of social freedom limitations and libertarian as meaning just free market. But either way strong government + libertarian = contradiction.
I know it's impossible, but I like to think is.

What is this contradiction supposed to mean anyway? What does a "Marxist free-market" mean?
Einfach
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That's not what I meant. By "strong" I meant with integrity and strength. I should have clarified.

Interesting - we actually have quite a few Libertarians (myself included :P).

1. Me
2. You
3. Noname
4. MRWalker
5. Coffeeshop Frank (but doesn't post much)
6. Some other people - (driejen maybe?)

Pretty good out of a handful of regulars! I might not even know them all.
EnterOrion
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Pretty good out of a handful of regulars! I might not even know them all.


Hard to say. A lot of people come through here, so we're probably a minority.
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