so liek wat u guise think iz meaning of lief? 42? lol
but seriously what is the meaning to life? recently was reading Tolstoy's confessions for the sake of sating knowledge and it also happens to be one of sources I am using for my PHL 430 class.
anyway Tolstoy proposes that everyone asks the question what is the meaning of life? these questions drive us to the edge of course many of you are younger and don't have to deal with ideas of death etc.
finally he proposes that the meaning to life is indeed faith, which is why we see many people turn to religion and faith as to provide meaning to existence
so liek wat u guise think iz meaning of lief? 42? lol
i've already noted 42 and planned to move on i.e. that would be the only time there is a wrong answer
enormously insignifcant
ok so what is the meaning of life then, you've given me statistics and havent backed up your claim regarding it. I already recognize that the size of the universe is infinite. Now you could argue that in this world nothing is infinite it's mathematically impossible etc. well i mean on a relative scale.
Personally I don't think there is some super secret meaning to life at all. Why does there have to be? I agree with E1337. I like to think of it like this, we are "born to die." Plain and simple. Sure it's a dark view of things but what if it's true? I mean did the monkeys we evolve from search for some meaning to life? Nahhh they just ate bananas and threw poo at each other. Just make the best of what you got, I guess if I had to find a meaning of life, it would just be to spread my seed before I die, that's pretty much what we were born to do anyway werent we?
My point is, our lives, given the scale of the universe, are meaningless
ok then what is stopping you from killing yourself right now? you contradict yourself
I like to think of it like this, we are "born to die." Plain and simple
born to die, then why not die now? obviously something prevents you from taking your life right now, meaning of life is to go through life and live it? that is a maxim
I mean did the monkeys we evolve from search for some meaning to life?
gonna have to correct you there, we did not evolve from monkeys. we share a common ancestor from monkeys because once you evolve from something that object no longer exists
Just make the best of what you got, I guess if I had to find a meaning of life, it would just be to spread my seed before I die, that's pretty much what we were born to do anyway werent we?
possibly i can't really say what we were meant to do, but is there any meaning to it? Richard taylor proposes that we only can assign meaning to object. such as counting hairs, if you enjoy counting hairs for the sake of counting hairs, then you lead a meaningful life because you assign meaning to it. as i was saying earlier Tolstoy suggests that faith has the meaning of life but later reforms his postulate by suggesting that life is living it for the sake of living it for the experience.
in response to E1337 picture although there is some truth illustrated, that we are a part 100 billions of starts and w.e the conclusion is TOTALLY irrelevant. based on what do they state that ONE human being is irrelevant in the gigantic universe?
i think its COMPLETELY the opposite ONE is very important to the whole of universe - its an integral and absolutely necessary part. like a DNA code would not be complete if it was to miss one value another point to support my view: have u heard of the book "The Time Machine" by H. G. Wells? basically one of main characters travels back in time and happens to kill ONE fly. when he returns to his original time, the world drastically changed. so its a food-chain issue. so saying that one human is IRRELEVANT to the universe is absurd. its same as saying that we dont need ANTS. they are so small and useless! comparing to our modern industrial world! but if the ants will start to disappear, the whole life on earth will get ****ed. same goes for bacteria. ah how irrelevant is bacteria if i have fully functioning body? but only a kid could state that.
about the purpose though. i found the meaning of life in kabbalah, the mother of all religions and sciences. if scientists can make conclusion based on things they observe, kabbalists do the same THING - they are scientits. by observing human nature - they made conclusion that we are all EGOISTS. now i dont have any "blind faith" in anything. but thats a HARD fact. we truly are selfish. and being selfish goes a long way, for instance caring for homeless people, to satisfy YOUR self-esteem needs. u dont acually care about homeless, u just want to feel like a good person. so anyway the meaning of life (at least on earth) is to questions yourself, come to a conclusion that life on earth is meaningless itself, and finally CURE YOUR EGO to raise to the next spiritual level where (apparently ) you'll find the true answer.
now again, personally, i cant deny that our nature is trully egoistic - its totally opposite the force of bestowal (or god) that create us. our mission is to become just like it - instead of egoists - true altruists. but thats long discussion
ok then what is stopping you from killing yourself right now? you contradict yourself
born to die, then why not die now? obviously something prevents you from taking your life right now, meaning of life is to go through life and live it? that is a maxim
You're not quite right.. there's no absolute meaning to life, and there's no barrier between life and death hormit what you want yourself. I could kill myself right now, easy. But I don't want to because I want to live, because it is my only life. Why waste something unique, even if it is irrelevant to the entire universe? There's no higher force preventing us to kill us, no goal we must achieve for a higher meaning. The only ones holding us back are ourselves. That's why, if it happens that you fail at preventing that, you often end up killing yourself.
You assume so much. I dismiss universal meaning of life, while personal meaning of life is still strong. Humanity has no purpose save the evolutionary grind toward the next species. However, within humanity, there are meanings to our existence in regards to each other.
>while personal meaning of life is still strong derp.
how do i put it simply. i never asked what you regarded the meaning of life to be, i asked what was the meaning of life
>within humanity, there are meanings to our existence in regards to each other then elaborate instead of trying to be all pretentious and giving a vague answer that rewords the question ad nauseum
The meaning of life varies to how one looks at life. For some, life is a waste of death. I think it is an oppertunity to be the best you can be and live like its your last breath of air. To live life to the fullest.
i also want to add that there is nothing useless or random or wasteful in the universe. same as we dont have unused body parts - they are all needed right? nature is not DUMB and doesn't create excessive matter or w.e
and i find those scientists who claim that 97% of DNA is junk COMPLETE AND UTTER RETARDS just because they can explain wat 3% does and the rest they cant - doesnt mean its useless. like that is such an undervaluation of the DNA
more like THE SCIENTISTS are junk, if they cant explain the rest of 97%. (okay that statement is not really relevant, they got plenty of time to still work on that of course...)
its like looking at a plane and claiming that just the body with wings would fly, simply because one doesnt understand how and engine works and why it is needed to lift the plane off the ground. maybe he sees the engines, but he finds them useless. birds dont need engines right?
wow u people are ****ing happy defending your point of view like "life has no meaning" "life is pointless" "its a just a coincidence of probabilities - thats why we exist"
and you are happy to know that its pointless? you are happy to keep living thinking this is some coincidence?
Unless they use the scientific methodology, they are not scientists and I highly doubt they approach the rigor required to prove something scientifically.
how used the scientific methodology to determine that life ir pointless, or that one is irrelevant comparing to the cosmos? thank you
Why the Kabbalah as a science? Because it uses the same methods as the natural sciences. Kabbalists stage experiments and recording of all parameters and details involved in the process to ensure that others do the same experiment and check their results.
Since a thorough investigation of the surrounding reality, they feel certain emotions and to systematically record these sensations by using graphs, tables and equations. Then, using these diagrams, tables and equations, once again, do an experiment to replicate the research and see if your results are. This is the scientific method in the natural sciences such as physics, chemistry and biology uses mentioned.
I've always found it rather relieving that life doesn't have an objective point to it - it's much easier to give it a subjective meaning when there's no compulsion to follow a set path.
A universal meaning of life in regards to the universe does not exist. A meaning of life in regards to humanities place on the world does not exist. However, a meaning to life amongst other humans can exist.
Quit being PMS for once.
first of all youre the one with a stick up there, because you get all defensive and sh*t when i point out your blatant contradictions. your failure to recognize that PMS is only for women scares me, as you have once again proven your ignorance and displayed your need to flame people who are trying to provoke thought and your usage of grammar is terrible, how can someone quit being a premenstral syndrome.
you share 50% of your DNA with Bananas. 85% with mice, 46% with Yeast, and 60% with fruit flies.
this isnt a science thread just because something is 85% the same dont you see that even .1% accounts for such a huge difference i.e. monkey's throat structure is completely different from ours and they cannot make the same sounds we make. even .01 % different accounts for such drastic change and 15% is just no contest.
Appendix, tail bone disagree.
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The meaning of life varies to how one looks at life. For some, life is a waste of death. I think it is an oppertunity to be the best you can be and live like its your last breath of air. To live life to the fullest.
I quite agree, i can see that you also agree with tolstoy that living your life is basically living how you see fit and live for the experience
wow u people are ****ing happy defending your point of view like "life has no meaning" "life is pointless" "its a just a coincidence of probabilities - thats why we exist"
Does it really have to exist something, just because we would like it to exist? Egoist.
and you are happy to know that its pointless?
I am happy to know that life IS, and nothing more.
you are happy to keep living thinking this is some coincidence?
No matter what it is, I am happy I am actually living, coincidence or not. I don't give a sh**.
dont you want to keep striving for an answer.
I am interested in anything that explains how the world came to be, scientifically of course. I keep striving for answers about evolution.
Again, there does not have to be a objective meaning to life, which is just great and perfect and wonderful, because this, and only this, allows us to have our own subjective meaning to life. I don't want to have a meaning to life dictated to me. I just want to live.
