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wolf1991
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For those of you who care, or are Canadian, then you'll know that the Conservative Party of Canada was overthrown by a vote of no confidence a few short weeks ago. Since then there have been several controversal issues cropping up. The most recent one is the screening process that people have to undergo to attend a Conservative rally. This is highly unCanadian in my opinon because rallies have always been open to the public. Another issue, which relates closely to me is that several student have been removed from these rallies. As a student I am infuriated to see this because it clearly shows that the Conservatives intend to do nothing for us. This is not to say the Liberals or NDP will do anything either, but it is a shame that so many students do not vote, but when things of this nature occur, or we are not given any consideration when it comes to a platform, is it any wonder why Canadian students don't vote?

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/cbc-article.aspx?cp-documentid=28255564

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waluigi
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hrmm... I didn't realize so much was going on up there in Canada. I'd say it is pretty sad the way the students are reacting to this, but in some ways, I'd say its justified. The conservative party seems just to be excessive based on what I read, specifically, it seems, this Harper person. I do hope things improve for you.

wolf1991
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The Conservatives are very comparable to the Republicans. They are all for big business. Under Harper the middle class has been sorely abused and the student population ignored. The Liberals are no better however. The Liberals often take a middle road approach, trying to balance social policies with big business. This often leads them to raise taxes on both ends, again the student population is ignored. The NDP is the socialist party. They're concerned very much so about the working class and want to improve the quality of education especially for post secondary students. The problem is they have never had a minority or majority government in Parliment so my critism cannot extend to them and what they have done wrong.

Jetcord
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Michal ignatife is giving 4000$ to all student collage funds if he wins... I WANNA VOTE!

wolf1991
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Michal ignatife is giving 4000$ to all student collage funds if he wins... I WANNA VOTE!


That's basically people who give out loans to students. While loans help in a certain way, they do not help in a way, such as, say, giving students the money directly.
jroyster22
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This is very sad new news to me. Stand up for your rights!

wolf1991
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This is very sad new news to me. Stand up for your rights!


And vote for who? Liberals will lie to students, Conservatives will lie to students, NDP will lie to students. True I could go to a liberal and NDP rally and maybe ask a few questions, but I'm losing faith in my government. The politicians complain that students don't vote, but what reason do we have? We're being ignored as a demograph. We're not going to vote if you don't give us something to vote for. That's how we work.
MRWalker82
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We're not going to vote if you don't give us something to vote for. That's how we work.


This is backward logic. By abstaining from voting simply because you don't see an option which you fully support you are only allowing those who fully support those opposed to you to have all the power. My philosophy on government is that if you don't participate in it (i.e. voting) then you **** well don't have any right to complain. You are letting other people run your country without your input and then complaining that it doesn't go your way.
wolf1991
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This is backward logic


I never said it was logical, I just said that's how we, the students, work for the most part. We need incentive to vote. Personally I'll be voting NDP, but the population as a whole, I doubt will vote at all.
gaboloth
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Though, voting for the least bad isn't good either. I think our whole politics system is bad. We offer huge payments to politicians to make the best come, but it's a really bad idea. The real best don't want money! Money only attract people who care only about it. Every politician in history, even the best ones, mainly cared about being elected again the next time to not lose the power and the money (and the possibility to avoid justice in some cases). And now the people who could actually be good governors avoid politics just because they are filled with people drunk of their power don't give a crap about the needs of the country.

loloynage2
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is it any wonder why Canadian students don't vote?

Because students can make a change? Let's face it, Canada isn't moving. All the major parties suck. The best thing to do would be to vote for a third party choice. But people need like millions of dollars to even get noticed by the public eye. It's a very sad thing.
wolf1991
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Let's face it, Canada isn't moving. All the major parties suck. The best thing to do would be to vote for a third party choice.


I vote NDP because I want to give everyone a fair chance to screw up my country. Not just the liars and dictators. Besides at least the NDP is more concerned over the average joe than the American and King.
loloynage2
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yea NDP is the best of the worst. If only they would actually do something.

wolf1991
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If only they would actually do something.


They usually don't win many seats. They can't do much.
Canuck
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I'm not sure things are gonna be that way forever. In the 8th grade, there was some student vote thing that got kids in our school to give their views on what party they support, based on their views. The majority was NDP.

Obviously, these votes did not count in the federal election, the views of each student will change over time, and the majority of these people might not vote, but it does show that the NDP isn't that far behind.

The student voice is gonna matter soon. Canada has the highest post-secondary percentage population of any OECD country, and THAT is gonna show up on the ballot.

loloynage2
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But still. I'm seriously considering if Canada is even a democracy. I mean is passing the power around two huge corporate founded parties really a democracy? Is this really fair? Btw same thing for the US.

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