Honestly this is simply another topic which could be placed in any of the already well established religion threads. However, in the spirit of fairness, I'm willing to let this one stay open so long as everyone keeps it on topic. Otherwise it will probably be locked/deleted.
How does one reconcile the existence of multiple animals living in the same locations at the same time (given this 6000 year time frame) filling the same ecological niches?
Well i'm really convinced the universe was made by God. But i'm also Really convinced that it's not in the 6000 year time written in the bible. I think they got the basic idea right but lets face it, their numbers and things they took into account were way off.
The 6000 year timeline comes from a literal interpretation of the genealogies presented in the Bible which document the human lineage, and ages at death, down from Adam and Eve.
B. How are they sure it's right.
Because they were taught that it is by people whom they trusted while they were in a state in which they were susceptible to believing these stories without requiring factual evidence.
C. How can they believe it despite the Mt. Everest sized pile of evidence to the contrary?
Cognitive dissonance, the creation of psychological barriers which allow one to consider their religious ideas above our outside of the realm of any other train of thought, and social stigmas and pressures are probably the most likely culprits.
I don't think anyone on this site actually believes that so there's not much point to this thread.
You'd be surprised. I think, though, that they do not post about it in the forums. We've had a few discussions regarding YECs in the past and it's never ended well for them. And also due to that I'm thinking that this thread is pretty much dead. Unless we get some very relevant discussion going soon I'm probably going to have to lock this one up.
So, TLDR; is, bible says it, must be right, they are gullible and too stupid/stubborn to believe otherwise?
Often through the indoctrination of these theories to children their stubborness arises. It's not even their fault half the time, and that saddens me deeply.
And don't try and prove their views with logical argument.
I believe that Psalm 90:4 says "For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night." NKJ If we look at the original Hebrew we translate a "watch" as only an hour.
Therefor when we look at the original 6 days of creation we preceive it as human earth days, but again if we look at through the eyes of the Creator it has the possibilty of having 6 days worth of 24 hours, which means roughly 144,000 years for creation. Even being a fundamentalist I believe that the first part of the bible is merely misinterpreted by most. I don't personally think the earth is billions of years old just because of the ambiguous ammounts of data missing from the fossil records to make me believe otherwise, but hey that's just me and I know hundreds of people on these forums do believe so.
I don't personally think the earth is billions of years old just because of the ambiguous ammounts of data missing from the fossil records to make me believe otherwise
The fossil record isn't what it used to date the earth. We use helioseismic data, radiometric data, and other geological and chemical studies. The wiki actually has a rather decent explanation of all of this if you wish to look into it. Just look up "Age of the Earth" on wiki. If you want some more advanced reading then publications from the USGS are rather interesting and informative.
If you would like to further understand the rock you live on let me know, I can direct you to all sorts of fascinating finds about our planet, its formation, its age, and the history of life on it.
Therefor when we look at the original 6 days of creation we preceive it as human earth days, but again if we look at through the eyes of the Creator it has the possibilty of having 6 days worth of 24 hours, which means roughly 144,000 years for creation. Even being a fundamentalist I believe that the first part of the bible is merely misinterpreted by most. I don't personally think the earth is billions of years old just because of the ambiguous ammounts of data missing from the fossil records to make me believe otherwise, but hey that's just me and I know hundreds of people on these forums do believe so.
But since I think we can all agree the bible was written by humans, possibly with divine inspiration, they would have put it into earth time wouldn't they.
But since I think we can all agree the bible was written by humans, possibly with divine inspiration, they would have put it into earth time wouldn't they.
The reason for so many denominations is because of the conflict of interpretation of the Bible so I don't think so. Haha I just gave you how I've always interpretated it.
No, I mean the people whose beliefs are supported by logic.
Right, so not creationists. XD
So what do we prove our views by? The promise that we can eventually live forever?
That we could become Gods?
Sounds like the only thing we can do to convince a creationist is to let them take what they've always wanted - which is ironically contrary to the rule of suffering - by our greed.
