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We now will apparently only have to wait ten to twenty years to go to Mars. Thanks SpaceX!
Now, in ten years or so, we will be going to Mars. SpaceX claims it's rocket will be a transporter, not a colonizer, but hopefully we can work our way up to colonizing sometime before I die.
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[quote]The dark side of the moon is a figure of speech. It rotates as well so there aren't spots on the moon that always have no sun. It has a day and night cycle just like we do.
The rotational period of the moon is the same than it's orbital period, resulting in it showing always more or less the same hemisphere to the earth. There's a nice .gif, I hope it works here...[/quote]
Uups... sorry I misunderstood your point... hehe, the animation is nice anyway
False. The colonization of other planets would allow for us to make other planets as fertile as Earth, and to get minerals and ores from the other planet. We add one, and we could easily add another, gathering the resources from each, to bolster our supplies. It is basic math. The more you have, the more you can use without running out.
not true. the soil on mars would be bone dry and depleted of nutrients because there is no organic material in it. we would have to bring top soil from earth, so we are better off staying here.
we would have to bring top soil from earth, so we are better off staying here.
That's like the Europeans when they found the new world saying "well, we would have to bring people and food, so, it is better if we stay here."
C'mon man, where is your sense of excitement? We could conquer the Universe if we only had the guts!
im not saying it wouldn't be awesome because it would be. i just don't think it will happen anytime in the near future because of how impractical it is.
That's like the Europeans when they found the new world saying "well, we would have to bring people and food, so, it is better if we stay here."
Hehe.. you know, there's a difference between the ground of america and the ground of mars :P I'd be excited too if it was possible, but the only way we could do it, at the beginning at least, is with self-built stations. Mars is too huge for us to simply terraform whole regions to our liking.
The dark side of the moon is a figure of speech. It rotates as well so there aren't spots on the moon that always have no sun. It has a day and night cycle just like we do.
It means the side that we can't see because the moon orbits at its rate of rotation. I don't think the dark side gets any sun But I am not sure.
Hehe.. you know, there's a difference between the ground of america and the ground of mars :P I'd be excited too if it was possible, but the only way we could do it, at the beginning at least, is with self-built stations. Mars is too huge for us to simply terraform whole regions to our liking.
We could terraform a bit and contain it. And the terraform a bit around it. And again. And so on until we have covered the surface. It is possible but not all at once.
It means the side that we can't see because the moon orbits at its rate of rotation. I don't think the dark side gets any sun But I am not sure.
I know for a fact that it does. How else could you explain the changing phases of the moon?
It means the side that we can't see because the moon orbits at its rate of rotation. I don't think the dark side gets any sun But I am not sure.
Can't you see the neat animation I posted some posts above? Click the link if not.. it shows quite well that all sides of the moon are illuminated. Did you forget what a sun eclipse is? It's when the moon hides the sun, getting all the sun rays straight to it's "dark side"
We could terraform a bit and contain it. And the terraform a bit around it. And again. And so on until we have covered the surface. It is possible but not all at once.
We would have to do this behind a protective device; we couldn't terraform anything durably with mars'a ambient temperature and lack of consistent atmosphere. My point is, we will have to work inside our bases.
The dark side of the moon is a figure of speech. It rotates as well so there aren't spots on the moon that always have no sun. It has a day and night cycle just like we do.
The moon is tidal locked with the Earth so there is always one side permanently facing the Earth and one side permanently faces away.
The moon is tidal locked with the Earth so there is always one side permanently facing the Earth and one side permanently faces away.
Not completely but very close, yes. But that is not what I was saying. It is not technically dark. It is just the part we don't see from Earth. Every part of the moon gets light at some point.
Well I might as well get started here too...
Why do we need to colonize? Sure, in a few hundred thousand years we'll need to. I mean, in Earth's history, let alone the world's, we're just a small spec in it. Humans have only been around approximately 500k years, right? Well, considering that the Earth is about 4 and a half billion years old, 500,000 divided by 4,500,000,000 equals about 1, we've only been here 1% of the world's history. After the hell Earth has gone through I'd say we have resources for years to come.
let alone the world's
*Should be universe's*
After the hell Earth has gone through I'd say we have resources for years to come.
To avoid future debates of stupidity, Earth was a ball of fire and magma for its first billion years, then it was an acidic ball of acidic water.For proof, watch the history channel's "How the Earth was made." It'll explain it.
Anyways, think of Mars as more of a stepping stone. If we can colonize another planet, just think of the other possibilities. Someday this planet will die and if we want to live on, we are going to have to go to some other place.
Thoughts of a science-loving maniac, Vol. I:
If we can get some spacecraft to mars that can somehow inject our nuclear waste into its core, that might heat up the core enough to get a magnetic field going. if we get a magnetic field going, we can harvest the water ice from the ice caps. (there is carbon ice AND water ice, as shown by the Phoenix lander. IF we can get that water, we can break that apart to form oxygen for the atmoshpere. The oxygen would first be channeled into greenhouses to grow plants for food, which would also help generate a better atmoshphere. after many, many, many years the atmosphere may eventually be breathable, and we can import any animals that survived whatever the hell is probably happening down on earth. once again, this would start in controlled environments, then be spread into the landscape. theoretically, if we could get that very first step done, we just might be able to colonize mars.
Any questions?
If we can get some spacecraft to mars that can somehow inject our nuclear waste into its core, that might heat up the core enough to get a magnetic field going.
That wouldn't work and the point is to keep the radiation out.
What if we already colonized from another planet and something drastic happened and without education to teach all the newborns the human raced just started over? *creepy music*
I'll leave the convo to the pros now haha
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