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This is the compiling of little interesting tidbits in a Christian's bible.
Source: BibleGateway.com
(New International Version ©2011)
Version Information
The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.
The initial vision for the project was provided by a single individual â" an engineer working with General Electric in Seattle by the name of Howard Long. Long was a lifelong devotee of the King James Version, but when he shared it with his friends he was distressed to find that it just didnât connect. Long saw the need for a translation that captured the truths he loved in the language that his contemporaries spoke.
God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head.
2nd Kings
2:23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. âGet out of here, baldy!â they said. âGet out of here, baldy!â
2:24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
2:25 And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.
You must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yourself, and carry a cross on your back to become a disciple.
Luke
14:25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said:
14:26 âIf anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sistersâ"yes, even their own lifeâ"such a person cannot be my disciple.
14:27 And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
14:28 âSuppose one of you wants to build a tower. Wonât you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it?
14:29 For if you lay the foundation and are not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule you,
14:30 saying, âThis person began to build and wasnât able to finish.â
Sell your clothes for a sword.
Luke
22:35 Then Jesus asked them, âWhen I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?â
âNothing,â they answered.
22:36 He said to them, âBut now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you donât have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
22:37 It is written: âAnd he was numbered with the transgressorsâ[a]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.â
22:38 The disciples said, âSee, Lord, here are two swords.â
âThatâs enough!â he replied.
Beat your children
Proverbs
23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child;
if you punish them with the rod, they will not die.
23:14 Punish them with the rod
and save them from death.
Moses's Vengence
Numbers
31:1 The LORD said to Moses,
31:2 âTake vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.â
31:15 âHave you allowed all the women to live?â he asked them.
31:16 âThey were the ones who followed Balaamâs advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORDâs people.
31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
God & Slavery
Leviticus
25:40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee.
25:41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors.
25:42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves.
25:43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.
25:44 ââYour male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
25:45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
25:46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Old Testament Counts
Matthew
5:17 âDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
5:19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Look it up for yourself; completely legit.
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Yeah... right... no proof I see.
His proof was that adam supposedly lived for 900 years, noah supposedly lived for 500 years, but then it pretty much went down to about 40.
His proof was that adam supposedly lived for 900 years, noah supposedly lived for 500 years, but then it pretty much went down to about 40.
That's not a proof...
His proof was that adam supposedly lived for 900 years, noah supposedly lived for 500 years, but then it pretty much went down to about 40.
I supposedly have the power to fly and can shoot lasers from my eyes. It is about as plausible and has as much proof.
His proof was that adam supposedly lived for 900 years, noah supposedly lived for 500 years, but then it pretty much went down to about 40.
Considering we were just mocking this, just refer back to the circular logic image on the last page.
Of course. They lived for several hundred years.
Which is biologically impossible for humans by the way. Just sayin'..
That's not a proof...
No that's the base for his assumption.
I supposedly have the power to fly and can shoot lasers from my eyes. It is about as plausible and has as much proof.
You too? I have the power to change things no body notices. But when i do no one believes me...
Considering we were just mocking this, just refer back to the circular logic image on the last page.
Oh hey! that great... *rolls eyes*
Which is biologically impossible for humans by the way. Just sayin'..
Nope
Nope
1. People back then surely had the technology to do that. Yep.
2. There is a reason why we only have telomerase in the gonadic cells. We don't need it in the somatic cells for a normal life. But then we could as well have it in there too, right? What's the problem? Well, telomerase is an enzyme essential for the growth of some sorts of tumors; it enhances longevity and makes proliferation easier. Go figure why I would never pump telomerase in my cells..
3. Even if you would make a complete copy of your brain in a machine, it still wouldn't be you, you woulnd't be immortal. It would be a copy of your brain. Simple as that.
4. The other stuff could help in expanding our life to it's maximum, yet not to several centuries. And once again, if the people had the technology back then, where is it now? Oh wait, I know the answer to that. It wasn't technology. It was divine magic tricks. Right.
If you look at the first thing on the page is completely genetic and chances are the people a few thousand years ago didn't have the same genetics.
Another link
If you look at the first thing on the page is completely genetic and chances are the people a few thousand years ago didn't have the same genetics.
Hardly such a dramatic difference. Also, why did it slowly drop to 40, like you said, and now went up again a bit?
Another link
Did you actually read everything? It basically made the very valid point that even if it was possible to live as long, we would be more or less comatuous vegetables lying on a hospital bed for centuries. And that is purely disregarding of all the troubles and pathologies and genetical disorders, infirmities etc. we are subject to. Let's say Noah was 400 years old, how could he still be as fit as a, let's say, 60 years old? The bible's claim with longevity doesn't work together with them still being as fit as regular people.
Sorry for the doublepost, but I have one more point to tell... which is, this guy in the article multiplied the yeast's life by ten; an absolute of 9 weeks longer than usual. If we look at the humans, this would mean a maximum of 1250 years. That's a big, BIG difference, 1249 years and 43 weeks to be exact. My point is, absolute difference has also to be taken into account; I'm not an expert in that manner of course, but I see big problems still ahead.
And it does not in the slightest contribute to the telomerase problem.
But the links you posted are interesting, I admit it made me think again. Maybe I will read a bit more about it, and I don't completely exclude the possibilities. They are simply enormously improbable.
Hardly such a dramatic difference. Also, why did it slowly drop to 40, like you said, and now went up again a bit?
Hundreds or thousands of years passed, disease develops, humans change.
Let's say Noah was 400 years old, how could he still be as fit as a, let's say, 60 years old? The bible's claim with longevity doesn't work together with them still being as fit as regular people.
Never said it did...
Hundreds or thousands of years passed, disease develops, humans change.
Well according to the bible it was only like 6000-10'000 years.
well thats still a long time ago
Well the bodies of Egyptian pharaos don't seem to be that old... So the drastic genetic mutations should have occured within a few thousand years? Really? That seems impossible to me.
Hundreds or thousands of years passed, disease develops, humans change.
Sorry but there is no point we see this in humans. Viruses and other diseases have been around for quite a while, long enough that we can map the course of evolution by retroviruses in DNA.
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