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mysteriousmexican666
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I found this article online: "13 1 Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, and on its horns were ten diadem crowns, and on its heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like a bearâs, and its mouth was like a lionâs mouth. The dragon gave the beast his power, his throne, and great authority to rule. 3 One of the beastâs heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed. (NET)
We know that he was buried at seaâ¦. Ummmm⦠And he was shot in the headâ¦. Ummmâ¦. And he used Chinese weaponry (leopard); fought the Russians (bear); and was a CIA operative (lion)â¦.." Not to mention the NEXT lines from the bible:

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 ¶ And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Osama has caused many wars... Could he be the first beast?
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314d1
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Hmm I don't see how many of E1337's example could even fit the passage. For one, most of those people didn't even die from a head injury (Nero and Hitler committed suicide) and the fact that Osama was buried at sea and that the beast comes out of the sea is a weird coincidence.


3/4 of the earth is covered by see, that is a good place for it to come out of. And even then, it would be more logical and likely to assume that, if this crazy **** where true, that it would be something more like a monster, maybe a nuclear warhead on a submarine.

Most of the time when people say "that guy is the antichrist" or something like that, they don't even fit the description.


You have a great example right here, ah?

lso, most of those accusations just come from pure disgust with the person.


...See above.

I'm not saying it's real this time, it's just those weird coincidences that the passage has with Osama's description


...Not really, at all. I could fit a vague description like that with anyone.

he whole point of a vision is to see things that haven't happened. John obviously didn't know anything about Russia, but just because he didn't, doesn't mean his vision is false.


The motherland, which can be represented by a thousand signs, has of course nothing to do with this. A bear? That is really ambiguous. A bear can represent many things, strength, power, Berserk wearing bear serks, or of course, A LITERAL BEAR. It is like an Eagle, it has been used so many times it can mean anything from America's symbol to Imperial Russia's eagles to the eagle on the Nazi symbol. It is far to ambiguous, to the fact it can mean absolutely anything.
mysteriousmexican666
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Nero cut his own head off. Hitler shot himself in the head.
Nero stabbed his throat. That's not a head injury. Hitler took a cyanide pill, so it's debatable which actually killed him first.
..Not really, at all. I could fit a vague description like that with anyone.
Care to show some examples that are closer to the vision than Osama?
The motherland, which can be represented by a thousand signs, has of course nothing to do with this. A bear? That is really ambiguous. A bear can represent many things, strength, power, Berserk wearing bear serks, or of course, A LITERAL BEAR. It is like an Eagle, it has been used so many times it can mean anything from America's symbol to Imperial Russia's eagles to the eagle on the Nazi symbol. It is far to ambiguous, to the fact it can mean absolutely anything.
Straight from wiki: The Brown bear is a popular personification of Russia, particularly in the West
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This is definitely not Bin Laden. I know who it is, but I do not feel like going into this right now.

1. The beast came out of the sea, not went into the sea.
2. Horns represent rulers. I don't know that Al Qaeda has 10 rulers.
3. Heads represent hills. I don't know of an Al Qaeda location that has 7 hills.
4. The beast will be blasphemous.

This is definitely not Bin Laden. Sorry.

314d1
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Nero stabbed his throat. That's not a head injury. Hitler took a cyanide pill, so it's debatable which actually killed him first.


...He shot himself in the head after taking the pill, and last I checked head shots where fatal and a dead man can't shoot himself, so what do you think killed him?

Care to show some examples that are closer to the vision than Osama?


Sure. This guy.http://www.thebricktestament.com/revelation/alternative_to_god_proves_very_popular/rv13_01.jpg, also known as the literal interpretation, reading it as it says.

Straight from wiki: The Brown bear is a popular personification of Russia, particularly in the West


And Montana's state animal is the Grizzly Bear, and Montana being the Russia of America, fits the description as well. A bear also represents mascots for many teams, so why can't the Chicago Bears be it? Even Fire prevention could be symbolized by a bear wearing a hat. Or maybe Teddy Roosevelt, the president who freed a bear and got a popular toy named after him. It is really ambiguous.
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This honestly makes no sense.

1. Leopards do not symbolize China in any way, shape or form.
2. Bears symbolize power. Only recently have they come to symbolize Russia.

Nero stabbed his throat. That's not a head injury.


3. Usually when people cut their heads off, they cut their neck. I dunno. Seems like common sense.

4. I honestly don't even think Osama is important enough in history to be mentioned in the bible. Someone like Hitler or Nero would fit the description better.

5. It might seem creepily similar to you, but the brain is known for filling in spaces like that.
mysteriousmexican666
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1. Leopards do not symbolize China in any way, shape or form.
Leopard = chinese tank
2. Bears symbolize power. Only recently have they come to symbolize Russia.
Visions are described as foretellings of the future. Just because it only recently came into effect doesn't mean it's not part of John's future.
3. Usually when people cut their heads off, they cut their neck. I dunno. Seems like common sense.
How would anyone be able to fully cut off there head? Slicing your neck isn't cutting off your head.
4. I honestly don't even think Osama is important enough in history to be mentioned in the bible. Someone like Hitler or Nero would fit the description better.
Sure he is. He's one of the main reasons the U.S. started the war on terror and the many wars in the Middle East. He's also the reason for 9/11, many bombings in the Middle East, and not to mention the tightened security the U.S. now has on foreigners. Sure he didn't kill as many people as Hitler or Nero, but he has influenced many significant events.
...He shot himself in the head after taking the pill, and last I checked head shots where fatal and a dead man can't shoot himself, so what do you think killed him?
Perfect example: The woman from the Arizona shootings a couple months ago suffered a headshot and lived. It happens more often than you would think. As for you picture, 1) Those don't even look like beasts, they look like toilets 2) I don't appreciate the sarcasm that seems to be used a lot on this website.
314d1
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Leopard = chinese tank


Wait, what? Last I checked, Leopard was a German tank.

Perfect example: The woman from the Arizona shootings a couple months ago suffered a headshot and lived. It happens more often than you would think. As for you picture, 1) Those don't even look like beasts, they look like toilets 2) I don't appreciate the sarcasm that seems to be used a lot on this website.


Not from pointblank, when it pretty much blows open the skull. Well I could get a better picture of the beast, however that would show the "blasphemous names", which would get the picture blocked.
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3. Heads represent hills. I don't know of an Al Qaeda location that has 7 hills.


Glad you mentioned this. You know there's a very popular city on this planet that has been built around a set of seven hills. It was the epicentre for one of the largest empires in history. Also the foundation of a religion that has been spread all over the globe. Rome.

When Revelations was written the Christian populace was under extreme scrutiny and prejudice in the Roman Empire. Nero especially loathed Christians and made their lives hell every chance he got. John happened to be a prisoner of the Romans at the time he devised and wrote Revelations. Historians agree that Revelations is often a Pro Christian propaganda that was used to inspire hope and faith in their assaulted beliefs. You'll notice as Revelations ends it ends with good over evil and the Christians being saved. A typical form of propaganda is to instill a sense of belief that the suffering you endure now will be rewarded afterward.

Your assumptions of Revelations being about Obama are an incomprehensible stretch of the imagination. It has been applied by theologists and religious figures alike to so many of histories great "evils" it is ridiculous. The "vision" was not meant for out times. However, people are so obssessed with wanting purpose and direction they'll eke whatever they can from ancient texts.
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Your assumptions of Revelations being about Obama


*facepalm* I pulled a FOX >.<

I meant Osama! And the entire thing was directed at mexican
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Thanks for demonstrating how vague prophecies are.

If I wanted to I could make this prophecy talk about myself.

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I found it kind of creepy with the similarities and everything.

You should not, under no circumstances, try to prove visions by simlpy look out for similarities, at least not when you want to be taken seriously. Why? Because it isn't enough. The fact that there are similarities doesn't mean it has to be him. In order to do that consciously, you have to look out for stuff that specifically matches the occurence, and has a low proability of matching with other stuff. Just like the thing with being buried in the sea: do you know just how many people were buried in the sea? Tons! And you still have to answer to how you think he could possibly be coming out of the sea (because the vision clearly states the beast comes out of the sea, not gets in and gets back on land.)
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