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delossantosj
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Jack Kevorkian has died at the age of 83 2 or 3 days ago. for those of you who do not know who jack kevorkian is, he is a doctor who promoted "assisted suicide" for terminal patients who he believed had the right to die via &quothysician assisted-suicide". he served 8 years of prison on charges of second degree murder for it.

i personally think he was a great man. if a terminally ill patient was in so much pain that they wanted to end that pain, why shouldnt they be allowed to end it for themselves. i believe you should live life, not live life in suffering. and he believed that also.

this is just me though, what do you guys think?

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deth4
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I hate the thought of someone wanting to life. Suicide is the fate of cowards, it is a horrible way to cope.

That being said, i think the sentence on Dr kevorkian was highly unjust. If somebody wants to die, and they have a perfectly good reason to, let them.

deth4
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wanting to life


wanting to end their life*
Sheppard007
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I agree, because there are some cases where the patient is in so much suffereing and there is no possible cure, they should be able to decide if thy want to commit suicide. He was only doing what some one asked him to do, he shouldnt have been sent to jail for that.

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suicide is the fate of cowards


Let's say you're 80 years old, you're dead sick, you can't do anything by your own not even take a sh*t. Why should you want to keep living? I'd kill myself too.
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I think what Sir Terry Pratchett has to say on the subject of 'Assisted Dying' is quite well thought-out, albeit perhaps from a slightly biased viewpoint, and is well worth a read. I've never really seen a problem with death or a person of sound mind seeking help with achieving it, it's always seemed to be much kinder to end someone's suffering than let them grow frail and pained until they eventually wither away, death can be a mercy.

deth4
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Let's say you're 80 years old, you're dead sick, you can't do anything by your own not even take a sh*t. Why should you want to keep living? I'd kill myself too.


If somebody wants to die, and they have a perfectly good reason to, let them.


i was referring mostly to people that just wanna die because life is too hard
somebody who experiences a loss and wants to kill their self.
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See, I think that when a person who is young and just going through a time in his/her life that is difficult decides to kill themselves, that is wrong. A 99 year old who can't stand, or see, and yet still has a sound mind and wants to end the pain should be allowed to.

grimml
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i was referring mostly to people that just wanna die because life is too hard
somebody who experiences a loss and wants to kill their self.


Sorry, seems like I misunderstood your point. But I agree with you and valkery.
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i was referring mostly to people that just wanna die because life is too hard
somebody who experiences a loss and wants to kill their self.


Well, those weren't the kind of people he helped die.

Anyways, I understand why the rules exist, and I understand why they couldn't make an exception for him, but I don't think what he did was wrong either. Assuming he asked the patient (or if he/she was unable to communicate, his closest relatives) first, I think he did the humane thing. I can't say I envy the judge who had to make that decision.
deth4
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Well, those weren't the kind of people he helped die.


yeah, for good reason

i included that to define a thick line between just and unjust euthanasia

just a thought
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i see the "my body" argument coming into play here. why is it that when someone tries to kill themselves in any way we try and stop them... police will try and stop them. if I can do anything with my body then why will people try and stop me from killing myself? couldn't i sue for that?

its been said that people who are young should be made to live and those who are old and want to die should be allowed to die... isn't that showing bias between individuals based on their demographic... (isn't age a demographic?)

there are 10 year olds that suffer and die from cancer... there are 80 year olds who get depressed from being alone. If we are to allow any of it then it should be based on what the case is and not the age.

I'm not altogether sure where I stand on this... if there are treatments for the sickness then I think the person should have those treatments done and not just give up. if its a sure thing that's untreatable and will only lead to an eventual death then its up in the air... if it were me as I am now, I think I would milk it for as long as I could...regardless of how much pain I was in. We euthanize animals that are too ill to make it much longer... so if the person really wants to go through with it then I'd have to say that it should be their decision. (its late... sorry for the jumbled mess)

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It is curious, i watched "the Sea Inside" some days ago, beautiful movie about (inspired by real life) Ramon Sampedro (28 years quadriplegic) who fought in favor of euthanasia and his own right to die.

The movie shows attitudes and thoughts of several people towards this topic, and Ramon desires to die with dignity.

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I think that it is ridiculous that in our day and age people still say that it is illegal to prevent someone from going out on their own terms when they are dying from a disease that would end their life in a painful and sudden manner. I would rather enlist the help of a "suicide doctor" than die of one of the diseases that would result in a painful death.

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there's a difference between murder and helping people die. the difference is the first is uncalled for and done in cold blood. the second is just simply easing the pain forever.

kevorkian did the right thing, even if his methodology was questioned.

in the term of suicide: cases that cause true pain (like terminal diseases) should have the "self-suicide" option, but things that can be remedied if given the time to work it out (like depression, or teenage angst, drug usage, etc.) should not be allowed the option.

it's simply a matter on whos in more pain, and the winner gets to be free from it.

deth4
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it's simply a matter on whos in more pain, and the winner gets to be free from it.


well, some people tolerate pain better than others.

its been said that people who are young should be made to live and those who are old and want to die should be allowed to die... isn't that showing bias between individuals based on their demographic


Although you make an excellent point, age really could be a big factor in somebody wanting to kill themself. theyve lived their life, and depending on how well theyve done it thet could have had a lot of experiences, a lot of "been there done that, im ready" kinds of things at the end of their life.

I do feel like if a treatment for a disease is worse than the disease itself, someone should have a choice.
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