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EmperorPalpatine
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A lot of people, when talking about freedoms on here, claim, "We live in a DEMOCRACY! Everything is decided by the people!" Technically, we live in a Republic. Why do people argue immediately, when freedoms are in question, that we live in a fair democracy? Support your reasoning.

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akqpars
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Worlds open market societies like your country or hong kong have not ethnical identities in a way.And the little countries are in colonial possession of biggers.Without a threatining other nations,they dont bring cold war in to them and so called democrasy can live.

akqpars
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Have you actually clicked grimml's first link for example? Have you read it? I'm sure it's a lot better and more reliable than those stupid celeb magazines..
what makes you so sure that America is so much better than the rest? Have you been in any of the countries listed above them in the lists?

Manipulation policy is a must in emperialism.If we see people talking or living out of our lives.Not seeing any claimed doctrins in our inner or even outer circle friends,that shows we hear/see commercial minority voice/image.
And yes i have been in many countries and didnt went abroad for vacation but study.
HahiHa
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Again, what makes you so sure that america is such a great 'democracy', and other countries are not? And please spare me the mythical lessons and conspiracy theories, if you can.

sprooschicken
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America has the best democratic structure i can tell.Read other countries claiming to have democrasy.In my country no one can even critise systems faults.If so,they end up torture chambers and jail.


rofl, you can't be serious? nearly every country in Europe has a better political system
sprooschicken
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Press choose micheal dougles most sexy man too i recall.In all over europe,they have prohibitions to peoples lives.In faith,clothing,education etc.Dont need to talk about the asian or african countries.


I assume your talking about poland? which has fairly anti-Muslim laws which I don't neccessarily disagree with, don't tar everyone with the same brush, Europe democracy is excellent
GoblinD
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Stop kidding yourself, USA is democratic just as it should be.
USA might have a different voting system then European countries but every country needs something else. In USA's case for example, size matters.
And btw, capitalism fits democracies fine and there's nothing anti democratic about it.
(this in response to the claims I've seen in other threads)

GoblinD
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Posting elements of a democracy:
Free press
division of ruling power
Majority decides
excepting minority political power
believe in human and civil rights - every man born equal
Its very late and I'm forgetting some others so feel free to point them out. I'm sure you will find USA fits perfectly in the description.

indie55
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Just because we have some of the points of a democracy doesn't mean we are one. Just like a car can have some similarities with a truck, but that doesn't make it a truck.

EmperorPalpatine
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@GoblinD
England has the same things, but they are not a democracy: they are a Republic with a parliament.

AnaLoGMunKy
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Stop kidding yourself, USA is democratic just as it should be.


I think you are kidding yourself.



Free press


USA does not have a "free press"

division of ruling power


I wouldn't call a division of 2 a democracy (especially when your talking apples and oranges i.e. its all fruit, no difference)

Majority decides


Bush Jr got into power without majority!

excepting minority political power


I admit, I dont know what this means :P

believe in human and civil rights - every man born equal


Thats not a democratic trait. You could say thats communism, everyone gets an equal share etc...


Commercialism DOES go against democracy because if everyone has equal say, commercialism gets in the way because its causes those with MONEY to have more say. And guess what, thats actually happening. Funny how you dont see many working class people in power huh?
EmperorPalpatine
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@AnaLoGMunKy
I agree with you.

And by

excepting minority political power

he meant "accepting minority political power" meaning not crushing them completely, letting them have a voice.
GoblinD
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England is also democratic. Hell its one of the first modern democracy.
USA does have a free press. The government doesn't run it and can't control it.
decision of rule means a single group of people can't have all the power they want. The power is separated between the congress, the president, judges, etc. One body cannot rule undemocratically without another body to balance it out.
For rights, it is part of a democracy. Economic equality is not equality of rights, communist countries do not give its people the basic rights such as freedom of speech or freedom of movement.


ommercialism DOES go against democracy because if everyone has equal say, commercialism gets in the way because its causes those with MONEY to have more say. And guess what, thats actually happening. Funny how you dont see many working class people in power huh?

Capitalism is not against democracy its a war to run the economy. I already stated the benefits of it to the overall society (not only the rich people).
Again:
Everyone has an opportunity to get out of poverty.
People are motivated to work hard and by doing so help the economy (=help bring more opportunities to other people, more jobs, better healthcare, etc).
Over the last few centuries it was easy to find how capitalism made countries grow, decrease their unemployment, increase their income per capita, etc. Britain is a good example for how their economy failed as a socialist economy and but developed greatly as a capitalism one.
GoblinD
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*Capitalism is not against democracy its a way to run the economy*

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Technically it's a democratic Republic, but do I know what the differences between a republic and a regular democracy are? No.

EmperorPalpatine
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A direct democracy means the actual entire population of a nation votes on the issues and a majority vote wins.

A representative democracy means the people vote for people to represent them to vote on issues. They do not, however, always have to vote with their constituents while in office (that's how Bush Jr got elected without a popular vote).

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