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cowdude5055
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Dragonskin/Pinncale armor:
The future of warfare.
I don't know a whole lot about it, but I do know it uses overlapping ceramic tiles for better protection. Look it up on YouTube and tell me what you think.
I really don't know why the Army doesn't like it.

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314d1
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Apparently it failed the tests, which unfortunately I can not show/find do to the fact that they are classified. Unless Wikileaks decides that it wants to visit you for the specifics.

From what I can tell, the people making the product think its amazing, the people in the army don't. From what I can tell, it failed the extreme temperature test, was unable to stop rounds, and was advertised as level IV while it was only tested for III. It also seems more expensive then the current issued armor. At least that is what I can tell from the limited information available. More testing should be done, from an unbiased source, which is quite frankly difficult to do with weapons. If anyone wants to smuggle one into international waters and fire a few rounds at it, go ahead, but until we can get some test results you really can't say that it is more effective then the current standard issue.

EmperorPalpatine
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Kevlar is much cheaper to make and is overall more effective.

akqpars
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Countries giving out victims in order to manipulate their citizens to do their will.Its much more powerful to hold a 10 times smaller armies with better equipped and trained special forces.

HahiHa
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I found an article on wikipedia if someone wants to read something about it. Link. Is this what you meant? Not sure if it's the best article though..

EmperorPalpatine
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@HahiHa
Best part of the article is where they pull the round from the back of the body simulator (clay) behind the armor.

In response to claims made by several U.S. Senators, Dragon Skin and special interest groups, on Monday, May 21, 2007, the Army held a press conference where they released the results of the tests they claimed Dragon Skin failed.

Congress held a hearing on the matter. While calling the failure of his vest to stop a round on the second shot of the Army test a "once in a while" occurrence, the Pinnacle Armor CEO denied Army claims that a dozen more rounds penetrated his Dragon Skin vests. He argued x-ray photos of one vest the Army claims failed showed the Dragon Skin disks had stopped the round. "The bullet did not go through the armor," Neal said flatly. Army officials responded by showing lawmakers a video clip of Neal inspecting the same vest after a test shot, watching engineers dig the penetrating round out of ballistic clay backing. "Are you telling me if you were wearing this vest ... and that round hit you in the chest, would that have killed you or not?" a skeptical Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) asked Pinnacle CEO Murray Neal. "No," he replied.


I'd like to see the CEO wear it to prove its effectiveness!
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