in order for me to start this off, I'll have to tell you a story.
one night, I was watching tv with my brother, and he was going on another one of his atheist rants on how organized religion. he said, "Organized religion is like a slippery floor that mankind chooses to walk on. it impedes their progress and prevents the truth from taking hold."
I, being a christian, opposed him by telling him how organized religion is necessary in terms that an atheist could understand. I said "religion is more like padding that is under mankinds' feet. though we may trip every once in a while, we still remain unharmed." when I said this I meant how even though organized religion has its flaws, it's still helpful because some people are idiots and would follow no morals without something to tell them what morals are.
now for the question, do you think my brother's opinion was right, or was mine right, and could you explain your reason as to why?
it's still helpful because some people are idiots and would follow no morals without something to tell them what morals are.
We more so imprint our own morals onto a religion. So it's likely those deriving morals from a religion are actually deriving those morals from the person they are getting the religion from, who in turn have imprinted their own morals.
Some atheists have morals. Others do not.
The same can be said of theists.
In the atheist approach we would be saying that you could do what ever you wanted and it would not matter because when you died you would just be dead.
Of course it matters. What we do has an effect on others around us and can even have negative or positive effects on ourselves. Just because we don't live for death doesn't mean a thing.
only find their morals from the people in their church.
So what happened before the rise of Christianity, especially in places which had no real religion? Surely if people just ran around killing each other our society would be much different today. As for Christianity being such a great provider of morals, have you forgotten about the crusades? When because of the christian faith, armies of violent criminals were lead to the middle east and let lose to do as they pleased?