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lalala12
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Well, two days ago two high-speed trains in China crashed. 39 deaths, many injuries. At around the same time (within a day or so) I was on a train from Hangzhou to Shanghai; fortunately nothing happened.

My parents think that the second train could've stopped in time--apparently it was twenty minutes from the first train stopping and the second train colliding. Apparently on the news they showed that the track signals worked--you can't go within 200m of a train, and the control station knew where both trains were. However, the emergency stopping distance on a TGV@300km/h is 3500m. The second train though was a CRH2E with a maximum speed of only 250km/h--I don't know the stopping distance here.

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notinthepie3
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Why is everyone dying? At least 87 in Norway+39 in China+1 Amy Winehouse=127 deaths and sadness everywhere. Also, It's sad how many celebrities died at age 27.

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Why is everyone dying? At least 87 in Norway+39 in China+1 Amy Winehouse=127 deaths and sadness everywhere.


It's not all that uncommon. Plus, we've got 7 billion people (Or very close, I don't think we "quite" have that many yet) so...127 deaths..is almost nothing. It's so nothing, that it's not even a millionth of a percent difference.

There's far more deaths every day from car crashes, disease, etc, so really, this is just an example of the media hyper inflating everything...
notinthepie3
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is almost nothing


Yea, but think about it. 127 deaths. All of those people probably had families. 127 families affected by those deaths. Cousins, uncles, friends, brothers, sisters, aunts, grandpas, etc. And what about Any Winehouse fans? It's almost no deaths, but the people it affects...
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There's far more deaths every day from car crashes, disease, etc, so really, this is just an example of the media hyper inflating everything...


The media isn't hyperinflating anything. These deaths were extraordinary occurrences and thus deserved coverage. The famines and wars in Africa and such deserve coverage as well, but is it hyperinflation for them to extensively cover such strange crises as this terrorist attack or this train crash? No, not at all. And it's tiresomely platitudinous to say that is, srsly.
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Plus, we've got 7 billion people (Or very close, I don't think we "quite" have that many yet)


Population of the World
jroyster22
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International media seemed more interested inthis story than the Chinese media. Chinese media didnt release an official report until 24 hours after the crash. Something fishy happened.... They are burying trains right there on site!

notinthepie3
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Are you serious about them burying the trains on site jroyster?

lalala12
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I've been reading online news in English, and apparently they've been buried.
According to my parents reading Chinese newspapers/reading Chinese news: they haven't been buried, they've been moved elsewhere for study. The Western news contradicts this, saying they were buried apparently for "nation-level technology" without giving a chance to study the cars for info about the crash.

Cover up or no?

Btw, the emergency stopping distance of the crashed train was actually 5km.

Also Alt, are you back?

FireflyIV
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My parents think that the second train could've stopped in time--apparently it was twenty minutes from the first train stopping and the second train colliding.


It was certainly preventable. This highlights the big question the Chinese authorities need to find answers for. Namely, how do you prevent the corruption and inefficiency engendered by an undemocratic civil society without giving up any of their power?
jroyster22
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I am 100% serious. I am not exactly sure what they are trying to cover up. Who knows!

FireflyIV
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I am 100% serious. I am not exactly sure what they are trying to cover up. Who knows!


Probably corrupt Chinese officials or company reps taking kick backs for the high speed rail project, at the expense of the safety of the passengers.
lalala12
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Perhaps it's just incompetence on their part. Anyway, a little while ago (before the crash) a high-ranking official got sacked for being corrupt.

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Its a terrible accident thats all I have to say.

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