What of it? What's the best class? Best weapons? Best maps? Best game mode? Best players?
Personally, I like either the pyro (I know, I'm a noob) with the Backburner, detonator, and the Axtinguisher; or the Spy with the Ambassador, Your Eternal Reward, and Cloak and Dagger.
The best weapons? Scout - As a primary, the Soda Popper. Easy. Secondary?Um, probably the Crit-a-Cola, but I'm sure that could be arguable. Melee would be the Sandman. Soldier - As primary, currently either the Black Box or the Cow Mangler 5000. Which do you like better? As secondary, the Righteous Bison or Buff Banner. As melee, probably the Half_Zacotchi (sp?) Pyro - As a primary, easily the Backburner. As a secondary, the Detonator. As melee, the Back Scratcher or Axtinguisher. Demoman - My favorite primary is honestly your straight up Grenade Launcher. You can't go wrong. Secondary is the Scotish Resistance. God forbid the Charge 'N Targe. Melee is obviously the Eyelander. Heavy - Natasha, Family Business, and Gloves of Running Urgently Engineer - Shotgun should be the Frontier Justice. The secondary should be the Wrangler. The wrench should be the Jag. You should be building full sentries, not minis. Sniper - Machina, Jarate, and I don't know... none of the Sniper melees appeal to me very much. Medic - The Kritskrieg (sp?), any of the more advanced needle guns, but not the Crusader's Crossbow, and the Amputator or Solemn Vow. Spy - Handgun should be the Ambassador. If you like disguising, the Conniver's Kunai. If you don't, then Your Eternal Reward. Your watch should be the Cloak and Dagger.
Overall, the best weapon of all time so far is the Kritskrieg (sp?).
The best map is Pipeline. The best game mode is payload. The best player is "[TSElite] Latisan".
For scout I like the special delivery set (shortstop mad milk holy mackeral)
For soldier Black box buff banner equalizer
For Pyro Backburner flare gun or detonator and homewrecker (to help engis)
For Demo I hate the nade launcher so I go demo knight with splendid screen, persuader and ali babas wee boots as it can really annoy people and works well for picking off snipers.
For Heavy easily tomislav sandvich and gloves of running urgently
Engineer frontier justice wrangler jag or gunslinger
Sniper Machina Darwins danger shield and shashanasha
Medic Crusaders crossbow amputator for set bonus and normal medic gun
Spy Enforcer is awesome I rarely use knife and clock and dagger to back off when you are nearly dead or out of ammo
My favourite weapon is enforcer, tomislav, machina or black box I really cant decide
map I always play is ctf battle creek which only one server uses I think
Scout - Scattergun Bonk Sandman I don't use Soldier at all Pyro - Backburner, Flare, Axtinguisher Demo - Grenade launcher, Stickies, any melee ( Yes I use launcher and stickies, a true Demo know that it's not only good for melee ) Heavy - Stock minigun, Sandvich, KGB Engineer - FJ, wrangler, Southern Hospitality Sniper - I hate sniper Medic - Blutsager, Kritz, Ubersaw Spy - Enforcer and Dead Ringer
I like a lot of custom maps, but my favorite Valve map is Koth_Harvest_Event.
Gamer_Cale: I like your Demoman loadout. Never thought of that combination before. And what does Battle Creek involve? Because its only on one server, I've never heard of it before.
Yodadude53: Hey, I don't disagree that the Demo can be used for more than melee, but what's wrong with soldier and sniper, albeit that they're tough to use? You got a good load of hats there, partner. And yeah, on the custom maps, koth_Harvest_Event is definitely the best!!!
Battle creek is based on a original halo map where there is two bases where you spawn on either side of area and each base has a ledge that is accesible from there side and there is a teleport at the back of each base that goes to the other teleport.
I just like the way is straight forward but downside is you can rocket cap in like 30 seconds
@Yodadude53: Ok, that makes sense. I'm with you on the Soldier, but not so much with the Sniper. Um, yeah, I play the game in the sense of achieving all the achievements, and I have played for 50+ hours and still have no Soldier achievements because I don't play it.
@Gamer_Cale: Well that's interesting. Def. going to look that one up. Oh, and if you rocket jump that far downhill, won't the blast damage and fall damage cause you to die when you land? So do you have to use the boots? Or does it just work?
@visitlegend: Which version do you play? Its my understanding that TF2 has undergone over 220 upgrades since its release. That might be the cause. But if you're playing a recent version, then I don't know what to tell you, other than play on a hack-free Valve server. Sorry.
@Gamer_Cale: Yeah, I like the Milkman loadout, but what does it give you if you have all the weapons equipped? The catalog doesn't say. Oh, and I friended you on Steam. My ID is "[TSElite] Latisan", TSElite just being the abbreviation for the main group I belong to.
I am disappointed with alot of your class set ups =/ but anyway, not gonna get into why, but my favorite class is spy =) i kick a** with it
SCOUT: force o nature, with bonk! punch, and the sandman. SOLDIER: stock rocket launcher, buff banner, and the equalizer. PYRO: the degreaser, flare gun, and either the homewrecker or the postal pummeler. (i have a class for demomand and demoknight) DEMOMAN: stock grenade, stock sticky, and the HHH axe. DEMOKNIGHT: splendid screen, Ali babas boots, and the Persian persuader. HEAVY: tomislav, sandvich, and GRU. ENGINEER: frontier, wrangler, and jag, but if i am playing offensive engi i play, frontier, luggamorph, and gunslinger. SNIPER: stock rifle, jarate, and tribesman's shiv. MEDIC: the clinical trial set(overdoes, quick fix, and solemn vow) and sometimes i switch out the quick fix for the stock medi gun. and last but DEFIANTLY not least, SPY: i use my strange revolver, my strange knife or big earner, and nromaly the cloak and dagger, i sometimes use the dead-ringer, and i have recently started using the basic cloak again.
now, my steam is "killbynight" but my favorite player is "spawn lock| crazdninja, now, i have to ask something, timothy, how have you never thought of using the splendid with the boots with the persuader? its a set!
@killbynight: Hey, its no problem if you don't like my loadouts. It sounds like you have more experience than me anyway. Um, the reason I don't use the loadout you described is simply because I don't have any of those items. Had I had them, I would have listed them. As it is, the only Demoman positive addition I have is the Half-Zatochi, so I play sticky bomb defense.
And hey dude! The TF2 Armor Games clan sounds like a great idea. Look it up. Its called "The Armor Fortress" (abbv. TArmFort). The link is
(Pardon the double post) And before you get under my skin again, I know I created a group when you asked for a clan. Unfortunately I belong to another clan right now, so I made the group. I figured we could start this up and invite people and tell them to invite people and work it like that (virally). If there is a good number of Armor Games TF2 players, we can make it a clan. Sound good?
What of it? What's the best class? Best weapons? Best maps? Best game mode? Best players?
You haven't played this game enough if you don't realize there is no best class, and there is no best weapons (they're all sidegrades (well, used to be)).
I've been playing this game for almost 2 years now, and my brother has over 1200 hours of gameplay according to steam.
