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arkaninerenegade
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Can a christian explain the trinity to me? I mine Christianity is very confusing and contradicting, but this is the biggest for me. Is he god? If he is how could "god" die on the cross to save our sins? Does that mean if you believe in god,jesus,mary,the pope, or whatever even if you sin you free. from it? I would like to hear from a christian please, so i could here there side.

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deathbewithyou
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I had intended to. I was just not at my own computer at the time and so was limited to pulling further information.
There is the historical artifacts indicating Yahweh had a wife.

Okay It does not say that anywhere in the bible and its probably one of those websites that send junk. For instances On one website called wekepedia they talked about the arm being broken it said if your arm doesnt hurt then your arm is healed.
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Okay It does not say that anywhere in the bible and its probably one of those websites that send junk. For instances On one website called wekepedia they talked about the arm being broken it said if your arm doesnt hurt then your arm is healed.


other than the fact that I think u made that up, yaweh (he is our god too) does have a wife according to LDS doctrine. can't put down exact scripture in the book of mormon where it says that, but it explains why there is a son of god. technically, god created us all, but god couldn't have a true son without a wife (no wife, no jesus. simple as that).
molybdenum42
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In the begining there was nothing. Then God said "Let there be light." There was still nothing, but you could see the nothing a whole lot better.

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I'm 13 going to a Catholic School so I hope that I can explain this.
Imagine the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They're all parts of the same thing, God. So one part of God, the Father, who we credit to being god most of the time, made Jesus, who always existed into a human. That's why it doesn't contradict itself

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Imagine the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They're all parts of the same thing, God. So one part of God, the Father, who we credit to being god most of the time, made Jesus, who always existed into a human. That's why it doesn't contradict itself


that's about the jist of it.

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catholic school, huh. hope you don't get the head nun angry, she'll poke you with her boniest finger until you need a confession for no real reason.
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catholic school, huh. hope you don't get the head nun angry, she'll poke you with her boniest finger until you need a confession for no real reason.


Talking about getting the nun angry my mom went to Catholic school and once when they were out playing ball she accidentally knocked the nuns coif and veil off her head.
Bladerunner679
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Talking about getting the nun angry my mom went to Catholic school and once when they were out playing ball she accidentally knocked the nuns coif and veil off her head.


(Gasp) oh my! what happened afterwards? did the nun get angry, forgave her, or did she have to do the 40 hail marries.
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(Gasp) oh my! what happened afterwards? did the nun get angry, forgave her, or did she have to do the 40 hail marries.


She got beat bloody with a ruler.
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She got beat bloody with a ruler.


>=0 what ever happened to treat others the way you wanted to be treated. That's messed up.
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have you read the bible Ark? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". John 3:16 Jesus is the son of God. He is also an extension of gods being.

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oh your being nice in this forum huh mordecai
not in mine
any way look at this link and this will help you understand
Hypostatic Union
i do agree the christian faith is alittle confusing
you just have to look at the bigger picture
i just noticed magegraywolf was here
he's grest huh
im gonna put this on your profile too

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It depends on who you talk to really...

In some denominations, it's said that Jesus is the legit SON of god, and that he and God are two separate beings, as far as I understand.

In others (the one I believe), Jesus is a manifestation of God, basically, God put on skin and walked the Earth for 33 years.

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I know this is a necro, but I'll add this to what Pyro said.

In some denominations, it's said that Jesus is the legit SON of god, and that he and God are two separate beings, as far as I understand.

In others (the one I believe), Jesus is a manifestation of God, basically, God put on skin and walked the Earth for 33 years.


There's also that he's both. Son of God/extension of God.

And don't forget the Holy Spirit...really you can pretty much find any variation. That's without getting into the is Jesus equal to/less than God.
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Can a christian explain the trinity to me?

Here's my understanding of the trinity, in a nutshell... It's the three manifestations of God
The father, God as the creator,
The Son, Jesus, The man who was crucified and paid the ultimate sacrifice to forgive our sins. He's the "son" of god.
The holy Spirit, The essence of God, the God that we pray to.

There is the historical artifacts indicating Yahweh had a wife.
Yahweh's Wife

Cool, the account is closed. So it's probably false.
As mentioned int he video Yahweh is mention in the Canaanite pantheon as being a god specific to Israel.
wiki provides a list of the pantheon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_ ⦠n#Pantheon

That doesn't mean they're the same God, in fact I think it's pretty insignificant. Yahweh became a familiar name of God for people. That does not mean it's his real name, in fact, the true name of God is never revealed. We're not supposed to know it.
By saying he didn't know means he wasn't omnipotent. Therefore he's not the father.

God sacrificed his omnipotence when he put on skin and was birthed as Jesus. There was still "God the holy spirit."
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Cool, the account is closed. So it's probably false.


No it wasn't false. No idea why the person closed their account, but they were very well versed in Biblical history. Here's a mirror. Yahweh's Wife

That doesn't mean they're the same God, in fact I think it's pretty insignificant. Yahweh became a familiar name of God for people. That does not mean it's his real name, in fact, the true name of God is never revealed. We're not supposed to know it.


Always find it interesting how you like to twist things around. Let's see we have a polytheistic religion emerging from a pre-Judaistic era in the region where Judaism started. Interestingly enough the use of the name Yahweh became taboo, which would fit with the knee jerk reaction of "not knowing his name".

As for it's significance, this could be the history of how the Abrahamic God developed. This would play a huge roll in the emergence of Judaism and by extension Christianity and Muslim.
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