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Malkoir
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So many religions promise eternal life in their heavens for those who are true beleivers. Wouldn't this be a curse rather than a blessing?

We as humans today live as long as a little over a century. We are talking infinite here!

You live 1,000 years. Another million after that. Another billion after that. Another TRILLION after that. FOREVER

Even if it was the greatest paridise imaginable as so-called heaven is, after some time wouldn't you long for an end? It would be not long until you would become miserable; you would do everything you ever would want to do, and have nothing left. Then you would just continue to live and live and live, without any purpose, goals, or anything.

This does NOT sound like something I would want to have. I think it may as well be one of the WORST curses to be put upon a human soul. What do you think?

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EmperorPalpatine
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You'd probably be a better person because you'd realize what's really important and that material things don't matter because they don't last like emotions do.

It would be not long until you would become miserable; you would do everything you ever would want to do, and have nothing left.

You could still watch things change like the seasons and things. Or travel to places and see something new because things will be different the next time you see them. You wouldn't really get bored if you were active. Life isn't like playing a video game over and over until you're sick of it. Life moves on and changes. I'd like it. If I was unable to move or unable to observe, then yes, it would be hell.
MageGrayWolf
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Your right it would eventually lead to a very dull existence regardless of situations. I personal would like to live forever if I was able to continue learning and developing my mind, even if that existence became miserable.

The only way I can think that an eternal existence could remain blissful would be if we were altered so that we were either unable to have such feelings or so that we were unable to perceive that passage of time.

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Well honestly, I think that I would rather have that then to die. If life is not eternal, then death is. You will precive nothing, you will be nothing. For me that makes life seem pretty worthless. Because eventually all life will stop. And it wont even last long. It's like making a building out of blocks. A really big, grand building. But before you can even get close to finishing it, it is knocked down. You've already put hours of effort into it, and it wasn't close to finished but was knocked down, and you will never have a second chance at the greatest thing you have ever attempeted. But that's just me. I'm sure many others would rather have themselves lost forever then to continue forver. A suggestion I have though is to sleep. Sleep for years if needed, and forget a lot of your life. Then you can have a somewhat new start. After you're bored of this and fall into depression you'll sleep again. Then wake up and be happy.

MageGrayWolf
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You will precive nothing, you will be nothing. For me that makes life seem pretty worthless.


The worth of something isn't based on it's longevity. Quite often it's the finality to things that adds value to them.

Let's say you had your favorite meal but you almost never get to have it. The value of that meal isn't tarnished by the fact it won't last forever or that it is rare to have, but in the enjoyment you get from it while you have it. If you had that same meal every single day of your life for every single meat the value of that meal would diminish you would likely get sick and tire of it no matter how much you liked it.
dair5
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The worth of something isn't based on it's longevity. Quite often it's the finality to things that adds value to them.


Yes but when something doesn't last very long and then it can last long, then it's value increases. Something as precious as life which can end anytime here is priceless. (though people seem to have an easy time putting a price on it.)

Let's say you had your favorite meal but you almost never get to have it. The value of that meal isn't tarnished by the fact it won't last forever or that it is rare to have, but in the enjoyment you get from it while you have it. If you had that same meal every single day of your life for every single meat the value of that meal would diminish you would likely get sick and tire of it no matter how much you liked it.


Yes thats true. But it won't have value if you can't value it. Gold is worth nothing. The only thing that gives it worth is people. Without people gold is another element. With people to like gold and see that its limited, it gains a value that we make up. There have been hundreads, millions of people with lives that no one remembers. Of course they have affected our lives, but one day earth will be destroyed. If we don't at least try to get to another planet then what will be the point. We know earth will be destroyed so if we don't at least try to live as long as possible what is the point? We have to at least do that. We need to at least try to live for the point of living. So that future generations can experience. By giving up, there isn't much meaning to our short lives.
EmperorPalpatine
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(though people seem to have an easy time putting a price on it.)

ikr. "I'm sorry our poor maintenence on our factory's machine caused his death. Here's $5 and a lollipop."
MageGrayWolf
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But it won't have value if you can't value it. Gold is worth nothing. The only thing that gives it worth is people. Without people gold is another element. With people to like gold and see that its limited, it gains a value that we make up. There have been hundreads, millions of people with lives that no one remembers. Of course they have affected our lives, but one day earth will be destroyed. If we don't at least try to get to another planet then what will be the point. We know earth will be destroyed so if we don't at least try to live as long as possible what is the point? We have to at least do that. We need to at least try to live for the point of living. So that future generations can experience. By giving up, there isn't much meaning to our short lives.


Our lives have meaning now and it's now that we can value it. Like the meals, it's unlikely we will remember all the good meals we have but we can and have valued them while they were around. Our ability to remember them or not did not diminish the value of those meals while they were around for us to enjoy them.

You know I just realized I haven't eaten dinner yet.
dair5
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Our lives have meaning now and it's now that we can value it.


Yeah but that's kindof like pain. It's bad at the moment and it has a huge affect on you at the moment. But later the pain was worth nothing. It meant nothing. Of course at the moment pain is incredibly important. But afterwards it has no value. So if life doesn't end it can always keep its value.
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Curse....because you forgot to wish for eternal youth.

MageGrayWolf
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Yeah but that's kindof like pain. It's bad at the moment and it has a huge affect on you at the moment. But later the pain was worth nothing. It meant nothing. Of course at the moment pain is incredibly important. But afterwards it has no value. So if life doesn't end it can always keep its value.


There is far more going on then just pain. Is pain really all you see now?
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Even if it was the greatest paridise imaginable as so-called heaven is, after some time wouldn't you long for an end? It would be not long until you would become miserable; you would do everything you ever would want to do, and have nothing left. Then you would just continue to live and live and live, without any purpose, goals, or anything.


Well if we are talking about heaven I think it isn't a curse. Because you go to a place where you know no-one, there are no bad things (so I think you can't feel miserable), and who ever said there would be time in heaven. I don't think God has a watch.

But if we are talking about human life here on Earth it would be a curse to have eternal life because everyone dies who you meet and you know it. And you constantly need to make new friends and after a 1000 years you are hanging out with Your grand grand (etc.) children.
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I can feel the Atheists closing in on this one...

Anyways,

(so I think you can't feel miserable)


Bad things bring some well needed excitement. Imagine you in a retirement home, doing the same things every day, nothing bad/exciting ever happening... I think it isn't that amusing.

I think I would go berserk if i had to live until the world comes to a end, and that might be in who knows how many years. Unless of course, new world wars commence, that would be interesting to watch
nichodemus
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Well for me, I would feel the crushing sense of gloom if the people I care for are all gone and I'm the last one left. Painful thoughts.

dair5
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There is far more going on then just pain. Is pain really all you see now?


Oh no. I was just making a comparison. I can remember from one of my times in the hospital where they needed to stick me with an I.V needle. Except they kept missing my vein. I told myself that its fine because the pain won't matter later. But this think was worthless, because the pain mattered right then and it still hurt just as bad. So I made the comparison to life. It seems very important now. But if it truly ends as just a memory, then what's the point? It can't keep value if there is no one to value it. ( thinking of humans as a whole, not individuals.) Unless we try to make humans live as long as possible, I don't really see what humans as a whole should be looking to.
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We say living forever would suck but then what about death? Wouldn't that suck as well?
Solution:
Reincarnation

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