I feel like putting some peoples' ideas down and I'm not going to make an effort to be nice about it.
mw3... better game... has the professional gamers base... and theyve been around longer.
1) The main professional base was ProMod for CoD4. Aside from that there is barely anything and CoD is barely balanced to suit professional play.
2) What's been around longer? Call of Duty? If I remember right Battlefield 1942 was released first -- not that it actually matters.
MW3, I don't have to deal with OP vehicles and snipers camping for the entire game, as well as the glitches and horrible spawn. But I'll still get BF3 down the road.
If what you just said about Battlefield 3 was true, you'd be an idiot for buying it.
As for what you actually said, that's idiotic in itself. Vehicles are easy to counter being more agile and adaptive as a soldier. Snipers? Unless you're camping yourself you're not really going to get hit by an enemy sniper - and even if you do, they're hardly beneficial to their team relative to how they could be.
Underpowered if anything.
Glitches? Like?
Horrible Spawn? You choose the spawn - it's a result of your ignorance or lack of strategic awareness that lets you die so easily at a spawn.
Both because I'm not a fanboy and I believe in giving each game a fair chance.
MW2 - Bust
Black Ops - Bust
MW3 - Give it a chance? The risk / reward barely weighs evenly :P
MW3 all the way, never played the battlefield and never really wanted to.
So when it's an "either" "or" thread... what are you actually trying to do?
The main gametype, Rush
Woahhhhh
What?
RUSH?
Main game type is and has always been Conquest. :P
No glitches I've seen so far (okay, maybe a few legs to into a few walls but that's the same in Call of Duty)
No glitches here either, that, and the legs into a wall is probably intentional being as you can easily prone into a building like you could in a crouching position.
Player: Pretty good actually, the maps don't have too much running around, sure more than a Call of Duty or Halo map but still, it's all about setting the immersion level high and I am quite immersed so I do applaud you game for rewarding my team for doing well by letting me get back into the action faster. Thanks Game.
You haven't been on the Battlefield 3 Forums
Only if your using engineer can you take out the tanks... Every other class gets destroyed.
Avoiding vehicles is exceptionally easy.
Strategic.
Awareness.
Which is causing the game to have a mass amount of engineers, which for me ruined the game.
Bad players ruined the game because they can't handle going another class as they feel the need to deal with vehicles head on.
Sure, it's good you have Engineers but none of them figures being an evasive Medic is useful.
Well - except me and when I gather a squad, really.
Not to mention tanks still are way to OPd.. They honestly ruin the game, because normally one side gets more of the tanks than the other side, especially on rush game modes.
That's to do with the quantity, not their capabilities.
But really I haven't seen such a problem with it - quite often actually you can bare witness to a vacant tank at your main base.
They made sniping so horrible in this game, that not only do you need to upgrade your sniping class 3 or 4 times times to get a good weapon,
Twice, maximum three times, for the SV98.
you also have to shoot the person 3-4-5 times if you dont hit there heads..
2 Times with the SV98, 3-4 times with a semi-automatic weapon that has more bullet fall and isn't suitable for furhter ranged marksmanship.
Thus, not a problem.
Unless you want it one shot one kill - which would make infantry based combat incredibly imbalanced.
They did an amazing job patching up the beta on all the glitches... One of the things im really impressed with
The beta was at least one month old - I was expecting the bugs to be fixed :P
Theres only 2 bases that tend to have vehicles (at least on conquest) and on rush theres only 2 bases which you can spawn...
How susceptible they are to Engineers.
Or other vehicles like Helicopters - a Tank can't take out a good pilot, and that's another thing under consideration - my single complaint about BF3 is the unlocks for vehicles. Jets don't have flares at the start, nor heat seekers - this makes levelling up incredibly difficult at the start. Sure, it's not a lot of points you need but it is absurd in any dogfight you enter.
Then you need to consider the actual skill.
And the vehicle respawn rate is slow,
No? It's pretty darn fast - if your team continually uses your vehicles then the amount of time actually lacking that specific vehicle is very little.
Especially if you use Repair Tools and of course aid with RPG's or AA rockets. And you play conservatively - which if you try that style you should find it works very well.
Jets are a great new edition.
Battlefield 2.
to bad there too fast to do anything other than have epic jet fights,
Indeed - inefficient vehicles.
Battlefield should really just take them out and make the game fair all around. But thats my opinion...
The gam--
...
Really?
The focus of Battlefield:
Teamplay and combined arms warfare.
That simple... Taking out the vehicles would be absurdly stupid, on top of the fact of how small and simply GENERIC the maps would then have to be.
Battlefield again screwed up the Team Deathmatch modes by only having random spawns... Its a gamemode where you should spawn next to your squad, yet it doesn't allow you...
... TDM is a grind if anything. There is no objective in the game mode and it's further difficult to allow that with RANDOM spawns that would barely function when it's groups of what? 4v4v4v4 in packs?
As for rush there shouldnt be squad spawn,
How do you expect to maintain a solid defense or even a solid offense?
its annoying having all the lines covered and having one sneaky sneak fly in and have a whole team spawn behind him....
Then you didn't have all your lines covered.
Strategic awareness.
Whole team? It's difficult to care given your points in the first place but exaggerating truely does not help.
Because with every video shown so far for MW3, it looks like it will be the better game.
You mean the four trailers for countries that reveal nothing.
Or the mine that is basically a more flashy free-kill? I mean... claymore.
Fair all-around,
LOL
Really?
I find it rediculous what kind of people gamers are sometimes.
I mean, it's too huge a demographic to judge but .... ugh. Simply put the measely gamers who actually know very little about games and yet think they do, or rather in your case just voice their opinion. It's disorientating.
and having classes and killstreaks that fit every player type...
Love how you mention that it's fair and then you mention killstreaks.
GeeeeeeeeeeeeeGeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
That's long for "gg", something you probably rarely see from the awful community of quite frankly both FPS'.
You would see it on a balanced game like Starcraft II though.
well i agree mw3 dose beat battlefield shame battlefield needs a lot of work and the experience of cod
Barely understood the second part of what you said, but MW3 beats BF3? I can already argue why that's stupid - but instead I already have, it's on the CoD: Put it Here! thread.
Realism.
Hardly. A single bullet is very lethal.
The three comments above this one have no real reason behind them and I'm not going to put in the effort telling you why you're wrong.
Including nicho even though is reason for not getting BF3 is valid.
- H