You just don't get this do you? That country, is literally representative of 2000 years of sweat and blood. The pogroms in Russia, the blood libels in Middle Age Europe, the Holocaust. All we are asking for is less than .01% of a region, and even that could be taken away from us. I have said that I don't want there to be an official religion. That doesn't mean that I don't want the country to have a primarily Jewish population.
Let me rephrase that. By gearing policy towards always ensuring a Jewish minority, that is just as bad as almost having an official religion, that the government biasedly backs a Jewish character of the state, even as their numbers dwindle. That is NOT how a democracy works. The Israeli demographic timebomb is inevitable, and if by then the Israeli Jews insist that the state must have a Jewish character when they are in the minority, they will be almost on par with the Nazis who aimed for an Aryan state, without the genocide hopefully. A tad bit ironical.
Furthermore, as has been said before, just because guilt has been shown over the years of discrimination
does not entail they have a right to just claim back a land that had a majority of Muslim faith. If the various nations had guilt over persecuting the Jews over the centuries, then they themselves should compensate them, not foist the responsibility onto the Muslims of Palestine, which if I may remind you, treated Jews much better than most of Christian Europe.
If such a guilt argument runs through, then the Catholics who have been persecuted in Japan should have a separate state. The natives of the USA should be given fully independent states. The Aborigines should be given a state independent from Australia. Guilt does not justify the creation of an artificial state by driving off its original inhabitants. If your guilt argument runs, then Israel should also give back the land to the Palestinians, since they are after all guilty of oppressing them.
A persecuted people does not necessarily mean that they automatically have a right to have a homeland. That land was the home of a Muslim majority who suddenly are expected to just be driven off. I can understand a Jewish state in a Jewish majority area, but that does not justify chasing the Palestinians out of what is a majority Muslim area. Furthermore, didn't we already discredit the time argument?
Immigration quotas mean nothing as soon as the Palestinians start to enter. If they have kids at the rate of those in the Gaza Strip, Israel won't be...Israel any more.
Let us examine your first sentence. Immigration quotas place strict numbers on the number of Palestinians coming in; once a limit is reached, accept no more. When they become Israeli residents, I'm going to assume the government is not totalitarian enough to claim that the Muslim population cannot have children, whilst the Jewish Israelis can just to artificially maintain the Jewish nature of a state. That is utter rot and discrimination.
Except since they are Israeli citizens, that helps contribute to the population growth.
Arab Israelis also give birth to kids, so why are they criticized for having a higher birth rate than their Jewish counterparts? Why are they then not seen as contributing to the general population but instead lampooned as breeding like rabbits? It is entirely reasonable for me to infer that you hence feel that Arab Israelis are somehow less worthwhile than their Jewish coutnerparts if that's the case.
Or are you going to hypocritically switch Israeli citizen interchangeably with Jew, the very same point that you hounded me and Punisher for? If you're going to state that Jewish Israeli babies are somehow more preferred than Arab Israeli ones, then that is blatant discrimination.
Because Iran will have a freaking nuke in 1-2 years. No peace treaty with these countries, and Israel is susceptible to invasion from Syria (hostile), Iran (very hostile), and every other Arab country which Israel hasn't signed a treaty with.
Israel has hundreds of nukes. A little hypocritical to adopt a holier than thou attitude then? So Israel can bomb suspected nuclear targets and stop others having the bomb, but it can possess the biggest arsenal in the region and the Arabs can take their word that Israel will not use them? That's plain bullying and a double standard approach that makes Israel more enemies, not peace. If they expect the Arab nations not to embark on nuclear technology, they have to give theirs up too. Furthermore I have already shown how the Arab beefs with Israeli have more or less been settled, apart from some nations. I have also shown that the Arab nations pursued war more for their own selfish agendas rather than for the sake of a Palestinian state, effectively splitting the issue, the peace treaties for the Arab nations should not be mixed with the peace treaties with the PLO.
