Sorry for my bad english, but, I'm French as you can see. I was wondering if a part of the community wouldn't be for any other language (like french), because, Armor Games is certainly the best website about flash games, and I think that there's a lots of non-anglophone who play on it. So, a "french-part" wouldn't be created to speak about any games ? If it isn't posible, sorry for this topic, I was just wondering about it. Thanks you for reading.
Languages have been suggested before and will be part of AG3. It wasn't implemented because most people could speak English, even rudimentary English, and not everyone can speak French. As of now, this version of AG won't have a French section, but there will in the future.
As for the games being made in French, AG has no control over that, seeing the devs are the ones who create the games. AG merely chooses and then uploads them.
English is the language used for this site in every way; it promotes the site, earns the money to keep the site up, the language that the games are in and many other useful facilities because of the english language. English is also the official buisness language, so if one government (say french) and the other goernment (english), they would both conversate in the english language.
I dought that anyone on this site knows this about me, but i am half french, half portuguese and i was born in England. I grew up here so i know almost much of the new version of the anglo-saxon language (modern english). I understand that it isn't just people that are very strong at speaking this language...
I think that a french section is good. I see that many spanish go on this site and leave immedietly because of the language. I can speak french and portuguese (which is slightly similiar to spanish) and i think that in AG3, there should be these three sections of the site: English French Spanish ------------------------------------------------------------
If this occurs, then will be a sudden rise in the amount of plays of the games, amount of accounts created and because of this, the amount of money gained. a simple sum: Languages=people=money=improvment=more people=more money=Armor Games is amazing!!!!!(not that it isn't already). There are around 7 billion people in the world - close to 400 speak fluent english about 200 million speak it as a second language. We can't make everyone that speaks english become a member so we have to spread out the variation of languages.
There is a common example... Most people have heard of RayWilliamJohnson on YouTube. He has an amazing amount of views and support from his fans. He get a huge boost from the spanish population because he has created a spanish account which allows him to be known, not just in USA, Australia and England. Think about it.
There should be a Danish part. We have two Danish moderators, obviously we would be able to moderate such a language better, especially after Calm resigned, considering he either lived in or was native to France.
Language and moderation has been an issue for a long time now, which is also why the site currently is English only. Considering there have been users swearing and flaming in other languages before, this is obviously a high priority reason for the way the site is working currently. How they are going to run it in the future with several other languages, I don't know.
How they are going to run it in the future with several other languages, I don't know.
I think that there are other sites that can order their site with various different languages. E.G: GoAnimate.com (Spanish) Youtube.com (Almost every language) Habbo.com (Spanish) BBC.co.uk (Many Languages) France24.com/en(French, English and Arabic) ------------------------------------------------------------ I think a major reason why these sites (and many, many more) can keep up and cope with a variaty of different languages is because of the amount of moderators and admins available. They have moderators that have a particular job. Perhaps one takes care of the Spanish forums and community whilst the other(s) take care of the other languages community. The problem is that not many people can speak very good French/Spanish etc, so we really need to get some people that can strongly speak many different languages. You may say "What about Google Translate?". Well, the problem with that site is that it (mostly) configures indivudual words were as if you type in a sentance it will not always turn out to be what you were meant to say.
This is why that in my opinion, if we are going ahead with the plan of having different languages for the site, which i hope that we will, then we will need to recruit a few more moderators that can speak different languages and a moderator or two that can oversee all that is happening with all communitys; no matter what language they are.
I don't use Google Translate, it is not worth it and quite unreliable.
Anyway. We currently have three active moderators. Two of them are American (as far as I know), one is me. I don't know French. I wouldn't be able to moderate such a language. As you said, those sites have moderators, most likely as a part of their company instead of as volunteers, since they are actually able to keep up with the millions of users that post and use their site. We have three moderators working in their free time. Even if we got more moderators (that is, when the community ups itself), they would still be working on a volunteer basis. It won't be optimal for a growing site, especially not if it goes beyond the size and the language a few dedicated moderators can handle.
I am not saying they shouldn't make the site multilingual, I am just wondering, considering the current coverage and issues (and lack of answers to my emails!!) how they expect us to moderate languages we do not speak/write/understand. Hence the Danish comment. That would at least be covered to a basic extend, just as Spanish might possibly be if Asherlee had nothing to do but AG.
It worries me, let's just leave it at that. I am sure it will turn out awesome, but until then, I will be worried.
(Not to mention having to do stickies in several languages, unless the help page actually starts working as it should, so stickies wouldn't be needed, oh God I hope that will happen!!)
It may seem hard and all but in the end, if we actually manage to get through it as a community, it will definately be worth it.
I agree with you stating that we should leave it how it is for now... We don't have enough willing Moderators; 3 can manage a huge bunch of spamming and generally annoying people but i don't think that another language will be easily capable for 3 moderators that cannot speak majorly known languages such as french and spanish. I think we will have to have a few moderators that can excessively speak both english and the chosen language without a problem. It is very hard to find people that can speak bilingually and very well. :/
I would have thought that you were around 5 active members with the amount of work that you do a day. It must be hard keeping up! I wonder how you manage the users so well...
Hey, my English is fairly good, isn't it? Und Ich verstehe Deutsch. I am just crap at writing it.
I wonder how you manage the users so well...
I haunt them in their nightmares.
Either way, again, while I can see the smart in having multilingual sites, I also wonder why it isn't alright to encourage English? That is the language most people speak and write anyway, if they are bilingual in any way, and it is a good learning experience?
Correct I think,But I think here is a solution to your proplem with multi-language thing.Have a person that understands and helps that person/persons understand that language.Its just an idea anyways.
yes, that is pretty much what i have been explaining for the thousands of words i have tirdely typed. I also described the many consequences as a result of having a bilingual web site. I still think it will be worth it but it is so hard to get users that speak amazingly at 2 or more different languages. Usually, you have to be really experienced in learning languages and words very quickly. It is harder than you think to lean 3 languages from child birth. Trust me...
In the beta there's English, French, Spanish, and Russian options for the site. But that's not forums or anything. It would be great to have the site be able to translate the words and stuff of, and also forums for certain languages.
Either way, again, while I can see the smart in having multilingual sites, I also wonder why it isn't alright to encourage English? That is the language most people speak and write anyway, if they are bilingual in any way, and it is a good learning experience?
Yeah but if they aren't at all...
We could find moderators who speak the certain language fluently (and maybe English badly, or not at all), but that would be hard then to maybe communicate between mods/forums...
