ForumsWEPRArizona seeks to ban Ethnic Studies

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Kyouzou
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A recent law in Arizona is attempting to ban ethnic studies that promote or create racial and cultural tensions. Particularly one program in Tuscon, Arizona. The basic idea is that whomever sat in on the class decided that some of the things that the lecturer was saying were inflammatory, and as such against the law. Frankly I find that seriously moronic behavior, if you've ever taken a look at the history of Central and South America, it's quite obvious that the history is rather volatile. Even in current times, racism hasn't exactly died, granted there is some need for objectivity from the lecturers, this is one class where the truth needs to be told.

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nichodemus
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The more you try to avoid it, the more you will grow up, uncertain, fearful, distrustful of another race or culture. The prefect recipe for cultural discrimination; someone has got to have his brains checked.

I've always found such people who attempt to hide the truth from their kids as mollycoddling them, strangling their critical thinking skills, and generally being so prudish and holier-than-thou over such issues that it grates on my nerves.

Better to teach about different ethnicities and how that though they are different, we should all be accepting and respectful.

Kasic
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Wasn't Tuscon, Arizona also the place where the school tried to ban atheists?

dair5
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I read the article, and to me they made it seem like the teacher almost made it seem like whites are bad. I have no problem with what they're teaching, because native's land was taken. But I wonder if it'll make them have a sort of resentment towards whites. If they don't have many whites in their community, or school, then won't really have much to go on and I've seen it happen before. In this case I really wish I had more information to go from. The grades, or ages, the community, ect...

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Better to teach about different ethnicities and how that though they are different, we should all be accepting and respectful.


If only humanity was so accepting.

In Arizona, racial tensions are pretty high. With so many Mexicans coming in from Mexico, nationalism is only bound to run rampant. The problem is that these nationalists oftentimes find their way into school districts, and have a tendency to brainwash the students. Been there and done that, and it's not uncommon.
Kyouzou
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I wouldn't be surprised to find that both sides were in the wrong, however going to ban the class is absolutely ridiculous. Personally when I was reading the article, a lot of the stuff I saw, I saw it as a part of their history, it may be radical, and somewhat inflammatory, but a vast majority of real history is like that. Especially in the 19th and 20th centuries.

@Dair

And banning the class won't increase racial tensions between the two groups?

dair5
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Oh no, I'm not supporting that the class be banned. The kids still need to learn history. I'm just saying that if they're telling the truth then they need the program to take a neutral approach. If they're lying then there's no problem. The solution would never be leaving these kids without an education.

Kyouzou
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Ah I see, just a miscommunication then, was anyone else irritated with the fact that the "impartial" observer immediately linked the picture of Che Guevara to inciting anarchism and revolt, rather than important part of the Central American history. In my history class, my teacher has a photo of Stalin on the wall when we learn about the Second World War, yet no one seems to assume that he's teaching us how to be genocidal maniacs.

nichodemus
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Again, people who act so maniacally and try to hide the truths from kids in an attempt to stop it. What's so bad about knowing that Che was an active revolutionary? Millions of t shirts already have his mugshot on it.

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Wait. wtf?

"Chicano perspectives on literature, history and social justice.


That's almost word for word what i read on a white supremacist flyer i was handed once except for the Chicano part, no joke. If your gonna teach ethnic studies teach about all ethnicities please.


Racism isn't born, folks, it's taught. I have a two-year-old son. You know what he hates? Naps! End of list. - Denis Leary
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