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macfan1
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Why evolution is false? Here is my answers.

How can life come from no life. It's like saying that you put metal, wood, plastic and other stuff together and out of it comes life?

Q: Where did the the clouds come from?
A: The evaporated water from the ground.
Q: Where did the water on the ground come from?
A: The rain from the clouds.
Q: Where did the cloud come from?
A: The water on the ground.
The cycle goes on! But, there has to be a creator to start the cycle!

Where did humans come from? It goes on until it comes to some chemical matter. Well that has to come from something!

Mutations don't really change for the good. And hyena's don't change into whales over vast periods of time. There are too many changes that are necessary.

The Cambrian Explosion. The feared Cambrian Explosion by evolutionary scientists. Yup they just can't explain that.

The chance of 18,000 DNA letters lining up in order for life to begin by itself would be 1/4 to the power of 18,000. Too much to comprehend.

There are many signs of Noah's flood ( story in the Bible found in Genesis). Evolution scientists explaining the fact that there is sea creature fossils on dry land say that there was a huge body of water covering the land. That body of water is the flood described in the bible.

Living organisms are so complex that chance is impossible. If there is a creation, there has to be a creator. It is easier to believe in creation than evolution. Still believe in evolution?

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nichodemus
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Q: Where did the the clouds come from?
A: The evaporated water from the ground.
Q: Where did the water on the ground come from?
A: The rain from the clouds.
Q: Where did the cloud come from?
A: The water on the ground.
The cycle goes on! But, there has to be a creator to start the cycle!


That creator was the Big Bang, which created the elements, which spawned the process, if you want a crude condensed answer.

The Cambrian Explosion. The feared Cambrian Explosion by evolutionary scientists. Yup they just can't explain that.


Science can't explain God. So God can't exist based on YOUR logic.

The chance of 18,000 DNA letters lining up in order for life to begin by itself would be 1/4 to the power of 18,000. Too much to comprehend.


We have had billions of years for that random occurence to happen.

Where did humans come from? It goes on until it comes to some chemical matter. Well that has to come from something!


Apes, who came from simpler mammals, who came from more simple beings, until ultimately you come to the most basic single cell organisms. We did come from something.

Mutations don't really change for the good. And hyena's don't change into whales over vast periods of time. There are too many changes that are necessary.


Your eyeballs are a result of mutation. So mutations aren't a good thing?

There are many signs of Noah's flood ( story in the Bible found in Genesis). Evolution scientists explaining the fact that there is sea creature fossils on dry land say that there was a huge body of water covering the land. That body of water is the flood described in the bible.


And yet you give none of the signs of the Flood?

Living organisms are so complex that chance is impossible. If there is a creation, there has to be a creator. It is easier to believe in creation than evolution. Still believe in evolution?


Yes I do. Just because something is easier to believe, does not mean it's even remotely believable. You don't need to believe that your parents conceived you through complex biological processes, but came out from the rubbish dump directly. That doesn't mean sex is a reproductive process.

Again, you're trading simple arguments with NO PROOF for an argument that is constantly improved and updated.

That said, I'm not that well read on Evolution, but there's already a thread on that. I shall now wait for the rest of the Community to come back and snipe your pathetic arguments back to the primal swamp pools.
macfan1
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And you still have no answer for-

How can life come from no life. It's like saying that you put metal, wood, plastic and other stuff together and out of it comes life?
EmperorPalpatine
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And you still have no answer for-

He's waiting for MGW to blow the crap out of that argument.
Kasic
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How can life come from no life.


This has nothing to do with the theory of evolution Macfan. I know you've been told this before.

Q: Where did the the clouds come from?
A: The evaporated water from the ground.
Q: Where did the water on the ground come from?
A: The rain from the clouds.
Q: Where did the cloud come from?
A: The water on the ground.
The cycle goes on! But, there has to be a creator to start the cycle!


Again, this has nothing to do with the theory of evolution. This has to do with planetary formation.

Where did humans come from? It goes on until it comes to some chemical matter. Well that has to come from something!


For the third time, what you're asking is -not- what evolution covers. This goes under Abiogenisis.

Mutations don't really change for the good


Mutations are simply a change resulting from an inaccurate replication of DNA. Thousands of mutations occur within every person. However, they are usually non-consequential.

And hyena's don't change into whales over vast periods of time


Indeed they don't. This would actually invalidate evolution. So what you're saying supports evolution here.

The Cambrian Explosion. The feared Cambrian Explosion by evolutionary scientists. Yup they just can't explain that.


Please, go into depth here. What is so "feared" about it?

The chance of 18,000 DNA letters lining up in order for life to begin by itself would be 1/4 to the power of 18,000. Too much to comprehend.


1) DNA didn't come around until a long time after the first single celled organisms appeared, so it has nothing to do with the start of life.

3) Again, this is NOT evolution you're referring to, but Abiogenesis, aka how life began.

2) You not being able to comprehend something has no bearing on its validity.

There are many signs of Noah's flood


Give me two.

Evolution scientists explaining the fact that there is sea creature fossils on dry land say that there was a huge body of water covering the land.


You do realize that the land changes, mountains rise, etc? The great lakes were once an ocean if I remember right.

That body of water is the flood described in the bible.


Floods do occur. However, it is impossible for anywhere to have continuous rain for 40 days and nights, for all land to be covered in water, and then for that water to just disappear.

Living organisms are so complex that chance is impossible.


Single celled organisms aren't complex in the slightest. And by the way the word "chance" means that it's not impossible.

If there is a creation, there has to be a creator.


Yes. But there wasn't a creation so far as anyone can tell or prove. Which means that there needn't be a creator.

It is easier to believe in creation than evolution


It's easier to believe the sun revolves around the earth. That doesn't make it true.
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How can life come from no life. It's like saying that you put metal, wood, plastic and other stuff together and out of it comes life?


I did. Read properly.

Anyway guys, let's move this back to the old Evolution thread okay?
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How can life come from no life. It's like saying that you put metal, wood, plastic and other stuff together and out of it comes life?

Life is based on molecules, and molecules aren't considered 'living' as far as I know. I remember a quote from a biologist in a book saying that life is "a chemical inevitability". Study a bit of chemistry and biology and you'll know what I mean when I say that your statement makes no sense.

Mutations don't really change for the good.

Whether it is to be considered 'good' or not is our personal judgement; fact is, certain mutations can lead to an advantage and thus change a species.

And hyena's don't change into whales over vast periods of time. There are too many changes that are necessary.

The ancestor of whales were land-living mammals; this is certain. Not hyenas of course, but still. And there aren't nearly as much changement necessary as you seem to think. Just fiddle with a few gene, give it a lot of time, and voila! it works. Don't need to change the whole code..

The Cambrian Explosion. The feared Cambrian Explosion by evolutionary scientists. Yup they just can't explain that.

Feared? No, admired! The cambrian explosion is a fascinating thing. And only because we cannot explain everything doesn't mean it has to be god/false.

The chance of 18,000 DNA letters lining up in order for life to begin by itself would be 1/4 to the power of 18,000. Too much to comprehend.

It obviously didn't start off with so many letters, and at the beginning of abiogenesis we're pretty sure the involved bases weren't the four bases we possess; they were variations of RNA bases.
And obviously, evolution doesn't rely on comprehension of us petty humans.
Again, come back when you've actually studied a bit of chemistry/biology before critizising what you don't comprehend.

There are many signs of Noah's flood ( story in the Bible found in Genesis). Evolution scientists explaining the fact that there is sea creature fossils on dry land say that there was a huge body of water covering the land. That body of water is the flood described in the bible.

No, those are tectonic movements and sea/soil level changes. Things that still happen today.
Well if you believe in the Noah story, fine, but it is a biological impossibility considering the one pair of each animal thing. So don't go around bragging you know the ultimate truth.

Living organisms are so complex that chance is impossible. If there is a creation, there has to be a creator. It is easier to believe in creation than evolution.

Living organisms started as simple as could be. That's the whole point of evolution: nothing was complex from the beginning, no creation involved; it evolved into what it is today. That shrinks the chances to a very reasonable number.

Still believe in evolution?

More than ever since it's the only thing that makes sense, if you go a bit deeper in the matter that is.
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Found it.

Evolution

Macfan, post in this thread for things about evolution. We'll see your post the exact same as you creating a duplicate thread, and have the same responses, without the added *facepalm* for you making yet another thread that will be locked. What is this, your 3rd or 4th thread about this exact same thing?

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