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invalid777
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If the title is confusing, pretty much I'm asking this: If you were a [wood/platinum/gold] [serf/squire/knight/lord/duke/prince/king], how much forum posts should you have? I've seen some users who are knights with 1200+ posts. Then, I see princes with <200 posts. So. . . How much forum posts do you think is reasonable for each rank?

Note: If you're asking, "Does it really matter?" No, it may not. But the reason why I'm asking this is because out of the 'games rated', 'comments', etc. the forum posts one is probably the most useful.

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Cenere
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You keep forgetting you don't type in blue anymore, don't you?

Nah. Their own sake counts for them hitting one of the stricter mods (that was never me), my sake is that I don't have to anger myself with their stupidity, now that I can't hit them in the face with the stock of my rifle.

They had feuds

Had no idea.
Then again, Skater does have a bad habit of commenting people he doesn't like to get them to hang themselves for the mods.

And I respectfully disagree. Skater was a bucket of fun and laughter back then when he was posting, especially in the AMV and Tavern. Don't appreciate anyone slandering a friend.

Same. Skater is a bunch of awesome.

BUT WAIT! That wasn't the topic!
Back on topic, go go!
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Things to realize:

If you post equal amounts of comments and forum posts, then you will have a 33% of AP coming from forum posts, and 66% from comments. That's if you are the ultimate Hans Mustermann AG user (Super stereotypical). Nobody has that ratio perfectly.

The number of forum posts you have is a symbol of what you have contributed to the community(besides writing merits). Number doesn't really matter if you write good posts, although having a reasonable amount does give your voice more meaning on certain topics (mainly community questions).

Low Forum Posts =/= AP Farming


No it doesn't. I personally find that newer users have a larger comment to forum post ratio, especially people who wish to use AG to play games, not be an active forumer. This is a flash game site, the majority of visitors play the games, and post a comment on it.
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[quote=Cenere]I didn't know you didn't like Skater.[/quote]
Huh what when did I say that?

[quote=Cenere]What MrDayCee said: No pointing your fingers at specific people in the forums. The only thing you are doing is getting yourself in trouble for harassment and libel.
If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to a mod. Report them, end of freaking story.[/quote]
Ok. Didn't know there were overly sensitive people here. (Not directed at Cen)

[quote=Cenere]Mods doesn't unrate games. They don't try to clean up entirely after a spammer either. They let the admins deal with that, if it ends up being too much trouble.[/quote]
Oh wow really? Thanks for telling me that. Because I'm asking Justin to clear out my rated games.

[quote=ulimitedpower]newer users have a larger comment to forum post ratio[/quote]
Yeah true. Probably because they treat AG like a social networking site.

Cenere
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Huh what when did I say that?

I mentioned some users should not post on the forums, you jumped the gun and mentioned Skater.
The only assumption I could make out of it was that you didn't want Skater to post for whatever reason. Since "I want people to lose AP" doesn't go for "That person should never have used the forum, my next conclusion was that you might not like Skater, and wanted him to not be a part of the community, where he might not have been around to notice your existence and so on, and so on.
Most likely a flawed set of conclusions, but it seemed a lot more likely than that you just looked at the top 100, picked a name and suggested it.

Ok. Didn't know there were overly sensitive people here. (Not directed at Cen)

It's not due to oversensitive people. It's due to you accusing someone of breaking the rules on the forum, with your evidence being "He doesn't have a lot of posts, but he has a lot of points!".
The fact that you are mentioning names makes it a case of libel, the fact that you mention that specific name for that specific reason would be harassment.
It would be like going out into the public, pulling your friend/neighbour/some person up on a stage next to you and tell them that person is doing something illegal that few people will be able to be sympathetic with (Unprovoked violence/Violent robbery, for example), and put your reasons down on them never having attended an anger management course, or them having a bruise on their knee and a lot of money.
Most people are not going to listen to the reasoning and conclude it is flawed, and will have the faulty assumption that the person might actually be doing these things. That might create grounds for further harassment from others, public humiliation, all those horrible things humans do.
You are just creating that feel in an environment where the public is 1) teenage boys and 2) behind a screen. A bad cocktail.
So, since I assume you wouldn't do stuff like that in public, but you would go to the police with your suspicions, you also ought to keep such suspicions to yourself here, and go to a moderator, that might be capable of determining what is actually going on.

And that was an amazing amount of crap about that, but I tend to hope for the more idyllic outcome of things, and public shamings rarely have an idyllic ending.

Yeah true. Probably because they treat AG like a social networking site.

It's easier, as mentioned before. Many doesn't see the community link at first (thank goodness), so they start up doing a lot of game comments. Then they do the user comments and start on the posts.
Or if you are some odd bloke like me, you start out posting art in the AMW, and then slowly emerge to the rest of the forum, before noticing there are games as well.
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For some reason, any time someone wrote "unrate," thaboss read it as "urinate."

It's easier, as mentioned before. Many doesn't see the community link at first (thank goodness), so they start up doing a lot of game comments. Then they do the user comments and start on the posts.
Or if you are some odd bloke like me, you start out posting art in the AMW, and then slowly emerge to the rest of the forum, before noticing there are games as well.


Thaboss made an account for the forums. Recently, he's realized he almost never plays games anymore. And almost never posts anything in the forums other than S&S and the Tavern. Kind of the opposite...

But anyway,


Oh wow really? Thanks for telling me that. Because I'm asking Justin to clear out my rated games.


o rly?


This is kind of like the situation with the "ghosts." People assumed that just because people didn't have any forum posts and barely and comments/ratings, they were ghosts. Granted, many of them probably where, but still...

And you know what they say about assuming...
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[quote]Low Forum Posts =/= AP Farming


No it doesn't. I personally find that newer users have a larger comment to forum post ratio, especially people who wish to use AG to play games, not be an active forumer. This is a flash game site, the majority of visitors play the games, and post a comment on it.[/quote]

@unlimitedpower: You are incorrect in your first sentence, which calls me wrong. Here's my proof:

I said Low Forum Posts =/= AP Farming, which is the same as saying that Low Forum Posts = AP Farming is false. You also ignored the but it can be. That part indicated that Low Forum Posts = AP Farming is not always false, but not always true either. According to the rules of true/false, Low Forum Posts = AP Farming is not always true. Therefore, it is false, so I was right in saying Low Forum Posts =/= AP Farming. Also, by saying that, I was showing a high opinion of comments and ratings, but I am not an AP farmer. By calling my statement wrong, you showed a low opinion of comments and ratings.

Also:

I personally find that newer users have a larger comment to forum post ratio, especially people who wish to use AG to play games, not be an active forumer. This is a flash game site, the majority of visitors play the games, and post a comment on it.


That is not AP farming. AP farming is making spam comments and spam ratings on many games in a short amount of time without actually giving thought to the comments and ratings. Not everyone does this, so it is correct to say that Low Forum Posts = AP Farming is not always true, allowing my above proof to work.

Anyway, enough about AP farming, and if you don't see my logic, too bad.
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To invalid...
Well...I have start to reduce those "congrats" stuff, and armatar stuff, and getting more active in the forums. Check This out, he has only 27 forum posts! and just saying that he spams WAY more than me obviously.

Dragonico

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Check This out,


You realise by doing that you are doing exactly the same thing Invalid was doing to you, but trying to redirect attention away from yourself, which is kind of worse.

I think I pretty much have 50% of my points from posting. Or maybe 48.33% if you want to be specific.

Although I still wish I was a gold knight. I judge what rank I want to be from how they look.

Gold knight was the best by far but now I have to stick to the weird top hat.

The way I started on the forums was when I went on my profile and saw that I had 0 forum posts.

So I searched up "armorgames forum".

And that's how I ended up here
dragonico
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I forgot to mention something else...

Have you had the chance of looking at the current leaders? One of the user is a silver king and has 2 forum posts. And so as the other users from 0-50 (I actually mean that some of those users actually have 0)

And plus, I am not in the current leader boards, so what does that mean, do I look like I am farming ap from this day on? And I didnt like rate all the games in 2 days, It took me like 2-3 weeks, and yes I was like a new user who didn't know what "farming ap" until this user named Invalid777who told me that directly on my profile. I have already learned my lesson like 3 months ago. And Invalid, you should also tell to the other "current leaders" users the same thing. And look at that, I am making some great improvements

Dragonico

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it doesnt matter how much. u can bea king and have 1 forum post

Patrick2011
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weird top hat.


You can get rid of it by reaching 4500 AP, which will give you Wood Duke (@dragonico, it's wood, not bronze).

@dragonico:

I will quote parts of your post and respond to them as follows:

silver king


It's iron, not silver. However, I have more important stuff to say below.

And plus, I am not in the current leader boards, so what does that mean, do I look like I am farming ap from this day on? And I didnt like rate all the games in 2 days, It took me like 2-3 weeks, and yes I was like a new user who didn't know what "farming ap" until this user named Invalid777who told me that directly on my profile.


Given the fact that it took weeks, not days, to get to where you are now, I don't think you farmed AP. New users aren't inherently bad, though it takes time to learn the rules. In fact, until a few months ago, I was accused multiple times of backseat modding and temp-banned twice for that offense.

And Invalid, you should also tell to the other "current leaders" users the same thing.


It is OK to define AP farming, but if he accuses those users of AP farming, that's mini-modding, which is similar to backseat modding. Also, invalid777 has already been temp-banned for mini-modding.

And look at that, I am making some great improvements


Considering what you posted in your post, I don't think you were that bad in the beginning. I also don't think your improvements are that good, considering you just told invalid777 to possibly mini-mod.

Now to clarify the difference between mini-modding and backseat modding:

Mini-modding is telling users on their profile that they did something bad. Backseat modding is pointing out spam on the forums and possibly calling one or more users a spammer, but not on their profile. I backseat modded, invalid777 mini-modded. Btw, I have improved my behavior in the last few months (or so I think).
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Mini-modding is telling users on their profile that they did something bad. Backseat modding is pointing out spam on the forums and possibly calling one or more users a spammer, but not on their profile. I backseat modded, invalid777 mini-modded. Btw, I have improved my behavior in the last few months (or so I think).

There's a difference? I use the interchangeably.
If anything, back seat modding should be to go tell a mod to do something specific about someone specific, ignoring the mod's ability to make decisions on their own entirely.
But eh, tired of corrections that are not actual corrections.

@Dragonico:
Did the rant of crap go over your head, or were you just actually ignoring it?
Just wondering because, well, just because you don't point out a name, you are pretty much accusing the entire monthly leaderboard for being spammers.
Which, again, is a really bad move, if you want to behave properly.

It is OK to define AP farming, but if he accuses those users of AP farming, that's mini-modding, which is similar to backseat modding.

No, that is being an idiot. Sorry, but it is. Accusing others without proper evidence, in public, is idiotic.
Me pointing out that it is idiotic will be idiotic as well, but I do embrace the idiocy anyway.

Snore, didn't we have a topic on this thread besides people making corrections that are not necessarily correct, accusing each other of different things and trying to redeem themselves by doing the exact same thing?
No?
I thought it was a discussion on forum posts compared to rank. Must have misunderstood, but obviously all you forum vets are so much more intelligent than I am, as a newbie regular user, and you guys probably know best.
Now I just wonder why the title is what it is. . .
dragonico
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oh, yes...I did accuse the current leader...I should have proof-readed or something like that, I am not good at writing forum posts, so that is probaly the reason that I dont be on the forums that often.

silver king
It's iron, not silver.


t is OK to define AP farming, but if he accuses those users of AP farming, that's mini-modding, which is similar to backseat modding. Also, invalid777 has already been temp-banned for mini-modding.


wow...so it is okay to farm ap...and I sometimes forget what is mini-modding...


wait...so does that mean bronze, silver, than gold? am I correct now? Hopefully I wont make those ____rank confusion again.

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Kasic
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wait...so does that mean bronze, silver, than gold? am I correct now? Hopefully I wont make those ____rank confusion again.


No, it's Wood, Iron, and then Gold. Only 1 metal.

wow...so it is okay to farm ap...


No. Just quickly rating games and then leaving a stupid comment is not okay, and you will have those points you earned removed.
Kasic
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No, it's Wood, Iron, and then Gold. Only 1 metal.


Bleh, brain fart, Iron is a metal as well.
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