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LegoMyLego27
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Seriously, im not being racist

I think this concept is silly. Why?

There is no White History Month, or Asian History month, making this promoting one race, and ignoring the others. You probably think im a racist? No, Morgan Freeman is black and he has my same philosophy on this subject, here is a quote from him

Freeman has publicly criticized the celebration of Black History Month and does not participate in any related events, saying, "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history." He says the only way to end racism is to stop talking about it, and he notes that there is no "white history month."


Is he racist, no because he said that about HIS OWN race!

Your view on this?
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goumas13
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Anglos not whites are decreasing. The White population is actually growing. There was a six pct increase of the persons who list themselves as white. Generally speaking most Latinos tend to think of themselves as white.
As a matter of fact, most persons considered White today might not have been considered exactly White at some point in U.S. history, Italians, Irish, Greeks, Jews, Portuguese weren't always considered really white.
Racial identity is more of a culture than color.

Anyways, in my opinion Black History Month is mainly a positive thing, just because people don't know much/care about black history. Broadening our horizons is always positive.

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Now that I re-read what I've written, I can see that it didn't come out right.
What I meant to say is that:
The white population is indeed decreasing a little. However, more Hispanics are identifying as white. The number of Hispanics identifying as white increased from 48 percent in 2000 to 53 percent in 2010. Contemporaneously, the number of Latinos who identify as "some other race" declined from 42 to 37 percent.
This trend will probably continue, since the social standing of Hispanics is generally improving. Latinos are feeling more &quotart of the system", hence they are more likely to identify as "white".
Its like the White Doll, Black Doll experiment. Most people (including even persons of African origin) are going to pick the white doll.
Identifying yourself as white, in many cultures, is a status symbol (for example: most Dominicans do not self-identify as black, in contrast to people of West African ancestry in other countries). Call it brainwashing or whatever, but a lot of people want to be counted as white.
There is a good chance that this trend will continue, making the percentage of whites increase or at least remain somewhat stable around 70%. Just like Porto Rico, where the vast majority identifies as white, even though most Porto Ricans are generally not considered white by western standards.

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Well, only if you don't use the correct definition of majority/minority. A Majority constitutes more than half of the total set. So, since white people will eventually not make up more than half of the population, they will not be in the majority. The relative size of other elements of the set are irrelevant.


Majority can be defined in different ways. As far as I know in terms of race the majority was always the largest group, it didn't matter if they were 50% or not.
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I disagree. While there are probably people alive today who should apologize to certain black people (read your grandparent's year book quotes, they are often incredibly racist (and a little entertaining)), the idea of an entire nation apologizing to an entire race is just stupid. It won't solve anything and it will probably just make things worse.


Exactly. A bit like Germany keep getting guilt tripped by the Holocaust, and having to fanatically correct itself, and censor itself over the slight show of a Swastika.


And there are plenty of national holidays about white history. You might even be able to make an entire month out of them.


Would tend to disagree if you meant the religious based holidays such as Christmas, Easter etc. Religion isn't confined to race, and many Afro-Americans adopted it, and now, Christianity is quite a huge part of Black Culture.
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It seems like this whole Black History Month argument is one of those North American only things. I live in England and we don't have such a thing as Black History Month... we have history as, y'know, a subject. Any important historical events that are relevant and contain a person or group of people who were black just gets covered as being history. Is there really such a lack of inclusion in the American classroom that there needs to be a whole month dedicated to bridging it? I mean, slavery was a major thing, surely you get taught about that? And since then there have been a wide-range of well-known and historically important black people.

Also, on the side-debate of modern-day white people having to apologize for the things their ancestors did, it just seems stupid to me - doesn't it end up merely stirring up more racial tensions and, when one gets down to it, why should someone apologize for the actions of their great-great-great-grandfather? That'd be like putting me in jail for a crime that my father committed.

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It seems like this whole Black History Month argument is one of those North American only things


it's a usa only thing.
canada doesn't get these kinda stupid things either.
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I don't know, I'm kinda with Avorne on this one.. it IS important to learn about your history, to keep it in memory; and this should be done thoroughly in school.

A 'Black Month', to me, sounds like a cheap way for people to keep a clear conscience without actually doing much. Kinda like, "here look, we decreed a black month, now the past is completely forgiven, yeehaw".

goumas13
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It seems that the UK has also a Black History Month. Black History Month in Birmingham

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[quote=HahiHa]A 'Black Month', to me, sounds like a cheap way for people to keep a clear conscience without actually doing much. Kinda like, "here look, we decreed a black month, now the past is completely forgiven, yeehaw".[/quote]
Haha I guess so. Kind of like "Um guys, we should also remember the achievements of African Americans" (As in a friendly reminder).

Avorne
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Surely, the achievements of African-Americans (or Alfrican-whichever-other-race/country-of-choice people) should be remembered alongside their white counterparts and taught in the same way at the same time? I think the focus, if anything, should be on a greater overall inclusion of so-called 'Black history' in the everyday classroom environment rather than segregating it off into a special zone.

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Pretty much what has been said before. I don't see why we're making special notices of what race the person was for their achievements. If you want to have less racism, stop making everyone self conscious of &quotossible" racism. People should treat each other like people, and not step on their tip-toes around people of other races because they're so overloaded on "sensitivity" training that they don't realize how retarded they look.

If the government thinks people need to be more aware of their own history, so be it. Just don't make it about one specific race, because that's just stupid. Yes, there was slavery. Yes, it was wrong. But we're done and past that now.

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[quote=Kasic]I don't see why we're making special notices of what race the person was for their achievements.[/quote]
But then why does the United States create a special month to honor the achievements of African Americans?

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But then why does the United States create a special month to honor the achievements of African Americans?


Because we're overly minority sensitive. Other than that, I can't really think of a single reason. We learn about everything that's in "black history month" in U.S History.
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start slavery up again


Do you know how fast the human rights groups would be on top of that. Immediately. Not to mention that slavery coming back in most any Western countries is almost impossible. I say almost to cover that > .0000000000000000001% chance. Don't forget about the Asians/Mexicans that worked on the railroads. They still have no months, even though they do get little communities/towns.
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