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master565
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A man named Hamza Kashgari left three tweets saying

"On your birthday, I will say that I have loved the rebel in you, that you've always been a source of inspiration to me, and that I do not like the halos of divinity around you. I shall not pray for you."

"On your birthday, I find you wherever I turn. I will say that I have loved aspects of you, hated others, and could not understand many more."

"On your birthday, I shall not bow to you. I shall not kiss your hand. Rather, I shall shake it as equals do, and smile at you as you smile at me. I shall speak to you as a friend, no more."

Now apparently, these are extremely offensive things to say, because after receiving a death threat, he fled from Saudi Arabia to Malaysia. Malaysia deported him right back to Saudi Arabia to face a possible death sentence for his crime against Muhammad.

News article about this

Also, on a similar note, Youtube started banning religiously offensive videos.

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MageGrayWolf
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Got to love YouTubes policy with this "You can say what you want unless someone doesn't what you saying it."

27153
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Ever since Youtube was taken over by Google, it has become a complete joke.

master565
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Ever since Youtube was taken over by Google, it has become a complete joke.


Youtube was bought by google 7 years ago... I doubt you even used it much before then.
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Also, on a similar note, Youtube started banning religiously offensive videos.


We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).


They do not ban material offensive to religions, they ban material that specifically attacks a religion. For example, they would take down a video saying that if you are Jewish you are a dirty pig who rules the media and counts your Jew-gold in your caves. They wouldn't, however, take down a video praising the Nazi party-which would be extremely offensive to Jews.
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So basically they're taking down anything offense to the religious groups, not the religion. If its attacking Muslims it will be taken down. But it won't be taken down if it attacks Islam. You can insult the belief, just not the people.

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It's funny watching people abuse the constitution. I chuckle everytime I see people loophole the entire thing. religious groups SO take advantage of the US.... xD

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Reminds me of my friend Hamza (oh how hilarious they have the same name). His parents have pretty much threatened to kill him if they ever go back to Pakistan because he's a pretty open atheist and isn't a big fan of his comrades.

Say what you want, just don't say it in places where they kill you for it.

MageGrayWolf
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They do not ban material offensive to religions, they ban material that specifically attacks a religion.


And we have people saying those tweets are an attack on religion, and we have the person facing a possible death sentence over it. The videos listed on that YoutTube video posted weren't attacks or hate speech on religion, though were taken down being flagged as such without repeal.

It would seem so long as someone sees it as an attack or hate speech (which can be as inoffensive as those tweets) it can be flagged and removed as such. As I said "You can say what you want unless someone doesn't what you saying it."
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.......

" HOW DARE YOU WOMAN! THINKING YOURSELF EQUAL AND NOT PRAYING TO ME! INTO THE STONES YOU GO!"

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I am confused. What is the offensive part? If that was offensive, does that mean that I am most wanted in Pakistan?

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