Do think church and state should be seperated? I do wether it be Christians, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhism, or Hinduism. Whats your opinion on Obama making the Catholic church provide health care (birth control)?
Obama making the Catholic church provide health care (birth control)?
A bit more complicated than that. He actually said that they could either provide all care and remain secular, and receive government funding, or don't provide all care, remain religious, and don't receive government funding.
Anyway, church and state should (figuratively, of course) be on different planets in regards to politics.
Yes, it helps keep one religion from oppressing the other. It protects everyones views equally. Those who want religion in politics are only shooting themselves in the foot, as there is no guarantee that their religion will be the one ultimately or always supported by the government. As such you could end up living under a religion you don subscribe to. The only way to assure something like that doesn't happen is if we keep the government secular.
I just think it's interesting that hundreds of years ago politics were dominated by religion, and now religion is slowly being dominated by politics...how strange.
I think most of you guys are missing the point of the discussion here.
Religion and politics isn't quite the same thing as the concept of the separation of church and state, which refers to the distance in the relationship between organized religion and the nation state, which means the state has taking over the social roles of the church, leading to a generally secularized public sphere. Typically, it would mean that the State and Church aren't link and the head of the state is not the head of an official religion.
The founding fathers meant that THE STATE CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THE CHURCH. People now think that the church can't interfere with the state. No, it's supposed to be what the founding fathers intended. The state can't interfere with the church.
The founding fathers meant that THE STATE CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THE CHURCH. People now think that the church can't interfere with the state. No, it's supposed to be what the founding fathers intended. The state can't interfere with the church.
Has to work both ways, other wise the government can end up taking sides in something they shouldn't.
I believe that it's ok for churches to be involved with politics.
No reasons, no valid argument.
The Church specialises in teaching about religion, making bold, somehow convincing sermons to its followers. What it tries to teach is morality and how to live life according to the outdated texts of a jumbled book. Clergymen are trained in such an art and vocation; They don't go through the training to govern the state. That's one of the many reasons why they should not be involved in politics, who wants a bunch of people who confine their views to the narrow spectrum of an old teaching to rule a country, when such skills are largely not applicable to governing today?
I believe that it's ok for churches to be involved with politics.
Why? The bible says that God will destroy our systems of government in the end anyway. They're technically making themselves enemies of God when they become politicians.
The founding fathers meant that THE STATE CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THE CHURCH. People now think that the church can't interfere with the state. No, it's supposed to be what the founding fathers intended. The state can't interfere with the church.
mcfan, quit being ignorant and overzealous. there is a reason that it has to work both ways. if it didn't then the pope would also be the president. do you, as a gibbering religious thrall protestant, really want that?
I believe that it's ok for churches to be involved with politics.
why is it that you don't listen ever? if religion was involved, then all religions must be involved. you, as a super-conservative, closed-minded fool, would definitely hate having someone who isn't a christian governing your actions.
Macfan, what if a Rabbi was president? Would you be okay with that? How about an Imam? Or would you only want a good "Christ-follower" to be in charge of everyone?
