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deathbewithyou
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I thought this might be interesting. It would seem you need a permit to have a lemonade stand at your front yard. John Stossel talks about it on Fox News. Look here. My parents showed me a recording on illegal everything, John interviewed people who were treated like a drug cartel for importing lobsters in plastic bags even though this person had done this for years. He interviewed people who lost their home because the government thought there land was a flood plain even though it was proven not to be. He interviewed a man who was told to get rid of a tree because it was quote "not the right tree for the home" which I cannot make sense of. Nowadays you can't sell chicken or pigs without a warrant; and these people are farmers who have done these before , they know how to slaughter a pig. People can't sell raw milk because it is unhealthy (which in many cases it is), but the people say they have a right to have raw milk and that the government shouldn't tell them what to eat. Today taxi drivers need to have a medallion on there car in order to give people a ride which costs 3 millions dollors. John even mentioned about a family getting fined for having a prayer meeting at their own home.

Do any of these sound right to you? Should we make having a lemonade stand illegal without a permit? Do any of these have common sense?

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jpd4321
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No. none of this makes since. I think this is bull crap that the government can just get rid of peoples rights with no reason. The government was made under The Bill of Rights these rights assure Americans our freedom as people. Our constitution is made under WE THE PEOPLE. We as Americans are assured percific rights that the government cannot tampor with. But what this says it seems like they are taking away all our rights as people.

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Do any of these sound right to you? Should we make having a lemonade stand illegal without a permit? Do any of these have common sense?


Government(s) can take things a little too far like. The lemonade stand thing is what gets me most, because from what i can see in movies, that's supposed to be an American thing which makes me go "awww."

On the flip side, sure it might show you some extreme cases but in reality, how sternly and consistently are these laws enforced?
Jefferysinspiration
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Sorry - just to add in.

The fact that it will be a 'shock' to most people, probably shows how much it isn't implemented.

aknerd
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John Stossel talks about it on Fox News. Look here.


Read it. It reminds me of why I don't ready Fox news- all the "source" links just linked back to fox news, and were broken. Sounds more like a couple cops being jerks than an indictment of the legal system as a whole.

As for the food safety procedure- its kind of necessary. These procedures are what let us go into a restaurant anywhere in the country (well... anywhere populated enough to get inspected) and be confident when we eat our food. I took a food safety class in order to get my license so I could work in the food industry. It wasn't time consuming, hard, or expensive. It merely required that we know basic things that people working in the industry should know (how hot should chicken be cooked, how long can rice be left out at room temperature, etc).

With regards to the lobster thing- There is clearly something else going on here. I found an article online about it, and it seems like they weren't really even breaking laws. They even got the attorney general of Honduras even testified on the defendant's side. So, in this case, its not like our laws are messed up, there are just too many incompetent or corrupt people involved.
deathbewithyou
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Read it. It reminds me of why I don't ready Fox news- all the "source" links just linked back to fox news, and were broken. Sounds more like a couple cops being jerks than an indictment of the legal system as a whole.

No if you watched the show, he would have told you that the cops don't know why it was illegal. They didn't even know it was illegal because some even bought lemonade from them which got them in trouble.
Jefferysinspiration
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No if you watched the show, he would have told you that the cops don't know why it was illegal. They didn't even know it was illegal because some even bought lemonade from them which got them in trouble.


This pretty much sums up how much it's not implemented.

Quite a few laws are stupid - you'll get arrested if you're selling drugs, arrested if you possess drugs, but not arrested if you're simply on drugs.

A few cases of shutting down lemonade stalls isn't that big of a deal.

But you might find this funny.
deathbewithyou
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A few cases of shutting down lemonade stalls isn't that big of a deal.

Yeah but what if they got treated like the drug cartel?
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I think that essentially everything should be legal as long as it doesn't harm others. As for regulations, I think they are often (though not always) beneficial. I'm happy that not just anyone can get in a car and drive, for example. So, to a certain extent, I certainly believe laws intended to prevent harm from coming to people are "good".

As for the lemonade stand, I certainly do not believe there should be regulations on selling lemonade in your front yard. That's taking it a bit too far. The government should stay out of things like that. There are too many laws that weren't created in the interest of the general public. (enter rage mode)

While not very related, I happen to recall reading an interesting book by John Stossel somewhere:
Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity

That is all.

Jefferysinspiration
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Yeah but what if they got treated like the drug cartel?


Seriously, click the link :P.

Nah, there shouldn't be regulations but some people are just power hungry.
deathbewithyou
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A store got treated as a drug cartel because it was selling Raw milk. They acted as if it was drugs.

Jefferysinspiration
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Uhm, is that not because raw milk contains pathogens which aren't healthy to drink? And arguments in favour of 'raw milk' being healthy aren't actually supported by evidence?

deathbewithyou
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Uhm, is that not because raw milk contains pathogens which aren't healthy to drink? And arguments in favour of 'raw milk' being healthy aren't actually supported by evidence?

People have drank the stuff for years and they don't really care what other people think. Quote "Okay it's unhealthy, but I have a rite to what I drink."
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People have drank the stuff for years and they don't really care what other people think. Quote "Okay it's unhealthy, but I have a rite to what I drink."


cept for the fact that back then, most illness relating to food and drink, was milk related, seriously that stuff ain't good
deathbewithyou
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Well anyways. Seeing some juice stand get raded would be seriously over the top.
Policeman: "Hey you! we have a warrant for your arrest little girl for selling lemonade without a permit!"
Little girl: "No! please don't hurt me Mama!"*screams*
Policeman: "You have a rite to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in the court." *cuffs little girl*
Bystander: "hey you! you can't arrest a girl for selling lemonade!"
Policeman: "She did it without a permit so she has to pay the consequences."
Bystander: "This is police brutality!"
Policeman: "Sir! Let me do my job. Move along now or I will have you arrested for obstruction of justice."
Bystander: "Obstruction of justice? What your doing is completly opposite of justice."
Policeman: "That's it your under arrest!"

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No! please don't hurt me Mama

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