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redfan45
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"No news from Iceland⦠why?
How come we hear everything that happens in Egypt but no news about whatâs happening in Iceland:
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In Iceland, the people has made the government resign, the primary banks have been nationalized, it was decided to not pay the debt that these created with Great Britain and Holland due to their bad financial politics and a public assembly has been created to rewrite the constitution.
And all of this in a peaceful way.
A whole revolution against the powers that have created the current crisis. This is why there hasnât been any publicity during the last two years: What would happen if the rest of the EU citizens took this as an example? What would happen if the US citizens took this as an example.
This is a summary of the facts:
2008. The main bank of the country is nationalized.
The Krona, the currency of Iceland devaluates and the stock market stops.
The country is in bankruptcy
2008. The citizens protest in front of parliament and manage to get new elections that make the resignation of the prime minister and his whole government.
The country is in bad economic situation.
A law proposes paying back the debt to Great Britain and Holland through the payment of 3,500 million euros, which will be paid by the people of Iceland monthly during the next 15 years, with a 5.5% interest.
2010. The people go out in the streets and demand a referendum. In January 2010 the president denies the approval and announces a popular meeting.
In March the referendum and the denial of payment is voted in by 93%. Meanwhile the government has initiated an investigation to bring to justice those responsible for the crisis, and many high level executives and bankers are arrested. The Interpol dictates an order that make all the implicated parties leave the country.
In this crisis an assembly is elected to rewrite a new Constitution which can include the lessons learned from this, and which will substitute the current one (a copy of the Danish Constitution).
25 citizens are chosen, with no political affiliation, out of the 522 candidates. For candidacy all that was needed was to be an adult and have the support of 30 people. The constitutional assembly starts in February of 2011 to present the âcarta magnaâ from the recommendations given by the different assemblies happening throughout the country. It must be approved by the current Parliament and by the one constituted through the next legislative elections.
So in summary of the Icelandic revolution:
-resignation of the whole government
-nationalization of the bank.
-referendum so that the people can decide over the economic decisions.
-incarcerating the responsible parties
-rewriting of the constitution by its people

Have we been informed of this through the media?
Has any political program in radio or TV commented on this?
No!
The Icelandic people have been able to show that there is a way to beat the system and has given a democracy lesson to the world.

"The government of Iceland has forgiven the mortgage debt for much of its population. This nation chose a very different way of stopping the crisis from the rest of European countries. It decided to hear the requests of the population and to put politicians and bankers on the bench of the accused three years after their financial excesses would sank one of the most prosperous economies in 2008. "
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244018-Brilliant-Iceland-forgives-mortgage-debt-of-its-population
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314d1
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May I ask where you got this quote stolen from?

I can't find anything supporting your claim. Anywhere.

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May I say that I never claimed it to be mine?
It is from the Occupy Wall Street movement and independent news media reporting on something that is being neglected to be reported in mainstream media and I thought maybe someone would be interested, do you want the link?

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May I say that I never claimed it to be mine?
It is from the Occupy Wall Street movement and independent news media reporting on something that is being neglected to be reported in mainstream media and I thought maybe someone would be interested, do you want the link?


Yes. I do want the link. I can find nothing anywhere about this
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[url=http://https://www.facebook.com/OccupySeattle]
Than scroll to the post that has the same text i posted and a picture of a fire and stuff
and also http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244018-Brilliant-Iceland-forgives-mortgage-debt-of-its-population
and it doesn't surprise me that you cannot find it easily.

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[url=http://https://www.facebook.com/OccupySeattle]
Than scroll to the post that has the same text i posted and a picture of a fire and stuff
and also http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24401 ⦠ion
and it doesn't surprise me that you cannot find it easily.


...404 and nothing found.

And still no evidence of anything remotely like an Icelandic revelation.
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That would be a error on the part of my link posting skills.
https://www.facebook.com/OccupySeattle
Go on facebook, go to that page, look for the post I explained.

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That would be a error on the part of my link posting skills.
https://www.facebook.com/OccupySeattle
Go on facebook, go to that page, look for the post I explained.


The only thing to suggest this had ever happened is facebook?
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No, that is a facebook page dedicated to the Occupy movement which you may or may not know is put under extreme bias by the US government and mainstream media, and for example like with in Egypt. Social networking is a huge tool in these kind of things. Did you even find the post?
Why would mainstream media even talk about that anyway? They seem to neglect telling Americans about the truth thats happening in their own country why would they talk about it happening in other countries unless it can make protesting ones government look bad.

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No, that is a facebook page dedicated to the Occupy movement which you may or may not know is put under extreme bias by the US government and mainstream media, and for example like with in Egypt. Social networking is a huge tool in these kind of things. Did you even find the post?
Why would mainstream media even talk about that anyway? They seem to neglect telling Americans about the truth thats happening in their own country why would they talk about it happening in other countries unless it can make protesting ones government look bad.


Any old fool can make a facebook and say it is part of the occupy movement. It takes a Stalin to be able to cover up stories like this from the world, and if that facebook page is the only place mentioning it, it probably is not reliable.

Why would it not talk about it? It talked about all the other occupy movements, especially when they where getting attacked, it talked about the Arab spring and Egypt all the time. Have you even read the newspaper in the last year?
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The Arab Spring was mostly a violent movement, what happened in Iceland was mostly Peaceful as is the mission of the Occupy Movement. Why would the goverment wont us to know that we can achieve these things peacefully?
And using the "that probably isn't even the real occupy page" argument is a commonly used theme. Once again have you read it?
Have you gone to the link that was in the post? Or are you just here to argue

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The Arab Spring was mostly a violent movement, what happened in Iceland was mostly Peaceful as is the mission of the Occupy Movement. Why would the goverment wont us to know that we can achieve these things peacefully?


Since when does the government control the media?

And using the "that probably isn't even the real occupy page" argument is a commonly used theme. Once again have you read it?


Of course I read it. You copy and pasted the ****ed thing right on the page already.

So why have no Icelandic news sources covered this, then?
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Since when does the government control the media?

Really? Since when have the people controlled it?

And I have no clue why they haven't, maybe take a trip to Iceland Im sure you will see it in the news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uyxzg58JkYI
Theres a news source covering it. Not Icelandic though.
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Really? Since when have the people controlled it?


Since it was turned to the corporations?

And I have no clue why they haven't, maybe take a trip to Iceland Im sure you will see it in the news.


We are on the internet. It is not that hard to see word wide news. In fact, it is incredibly easy. For example, I can look up Iceland in Wikipedia and find out that their two main newspapers are "Morgunblaðið and Fréttablaðið", which doesn't show up since it is not English. I can then go to good and look up one. So I did. Here is the first in English's website. Here is the second. I can't read Icelandic, so I will focus on the first. And I can't find anything fitting your description.
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http://wizbangblog.com/2012/04/14/did-iceland-forgive-the-majority-of-its-citizens-mortgage-debt/

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244018-Brilliant-Iceland-forgives-mortgage-debt-of-its-population

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iceland/index.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/geir-haarde-former-iceland-leader-goes-on-trial-for-role-in-financial-crisis.html?_r=1&ref=iceland

Hey look its the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/opinion/krugman-the-path-not-taken.html?ref=iceland

http://www.infowars.com/iceland-forgives-mortgage-debt-for-the-population/

Maybe you didn't have a good idea of what to look up?

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Funny how most my links didn't go through. SOrry im not good at this whole posting links on forums, heres one i missed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/geir-haarde-former-iceland-leader-goes-on-trial-for-role-in-financial-crisis.html?ref=iceland

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