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nitin007
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Peasant

Who do you want to see as president and why?

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BritHennerz
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BritHennerz
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Farmer

I can't stand republicans, I don't mind as long as it isn't a representative of that party.

ChillzMaster
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Nomad

I can't stand republicans, I don't mind as long as it isn't a representative of that party.


Why not? We're fine people. Self-made-men and whatnot. "Does a man not have a right to the sweat on his brow?" is our mantra, Free Market system and the whole nine yards.

We do have a few too-insane Christians who are more Progressive than actual Capitalist, but we tend to push them in the same corner we keep our tigers.

Oh, and I'm none too happy with Mitt, but he is a solid Moderate who is a good jumping point for an eventual return to Reagan-esque Republican presidents.

-Chillz
BritHennerz
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Farmer

They want to ban abortion, they are really racist, their emigration policies are stupid (I had to spend 50 minutes taking my finger prints when I went for a holiday in California), they are power hungry and I just think that they are very hypocritical when they say that they are Christians as Jesus taught equality for everyone which the republicans interpreted that as equality for the white rich American man.

nichodemus
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We do have a few too-insane Christians who are more Progressive than actual Capitalist, but we tend to push them in the same corner we keep our tigers.


With the departure of Snowe, one of the only contemporary Republicans I admire and support to a degree, it shows a rather worrying trend that the evangelical side to the GOP is showing. The fact that a bottom of the rung evangelical bible thumping ex-Senator who can lose his two-term Senate seat by 700,000 votes in his home state shows the..... disappointing state of affairs in the Republican Party; you're scrapping the barrel for candidates.

Also I disagree, evangelical voters and representatives are pushing the moderates out, not the other way around. The breed of Republicans willing to engage in bipartisan discussions is going extinct; even McCain and Romney had to switch some of his views to be more conservative.

Either way, I don't know if you guys are willing to just move the discussion to the more established Presidential Elections thread a few pages back; more gold in there. And perennially rehashing is painful.
zombinator2000
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The top canidates suck. Obama, we already know what he's done, and I am not sure I want to live in an Obama Nation. Heck, I might cross the border to Mexico if such a thing happens(or canada). But the republican top canidate is no good either, when it comes to views Mitt is like a river, it flows wherever it's easy to flow to, AKA what the folks in a particular region support. When it gets to the presidential election and he wins, I don't know if he will even do anything because there won't be any easy path to flow down to simple because the views are so varied. If he does one thing, one half will be against him, otherwise the other half will. The one that I think might have the most potential to not screw things up more is also the one everyone else calls radical, insane, ect.

Basically, to sum this up, America, welcome to ****.

ChillzMaster
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They want to ban abortion, they are really racist, their emigration policies are stupid (I had to spend 50 minutes taking my finger prints when I went for a holiday in California)


A true Republican Capitalist would not ban abortion. A true Republican Capitalist would accept every man's voice as a man's voice, and if he wanted to be racist he would be racist as that is his decision in life.

Quite frankly I'm not familiar with immigration/emigration policies, but I do know that stuff's been tightened up since 9/11, so you have me there.

they are power hungry and I just think that they are very hypocritical when they say that they are Christians as Jesus taught equality for everyone which the republicans interpreted that as equality for the white rich American man.


Ah, there we have the fault in the party. I do admit that my fellow Republicans are too quick to jump to their Jay-suhs, but again, a true Republican Capitalist believes that a man is a man, regardless of the color of his skin. Power-Hungry? Equality for the rich white man? Bah. I come from a one-parent middle-class home, I'm far from rich but still live comfortably. I believe a man is to make himself from, well, himself. A man is entitled to the sweat on his brow, and through his own actions he must create his own fate. It's the American Capitalist dream. Why the white racism? We're not all rich, and those who are rich got there through clever business tactics. All in the glorious free market, where a man can turn from pauper to prince with enough hard work.

-Chillz
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Heck, I might cross the border to Mexico if such a thing happens


Here's the problem with the voting public. We all know people who say this aren't going to skip the country, but they still claim that the country's on the verge of failure. How long have people maintained that the current president was going to run the country into the ground? Since Carter at least, but we're still here.

Really the office of the president doesn't matter as much as people like to pretend. I'm probably going to vote for the most obscure candidate I can find.
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"Does a man not have a right to the sweat on his brow?" is our mantra,


I thought one of the latest mantras was "job creators" as in give the rich more money, tax the poor heavier watch millions lose work and you create jobs at the unemployment offices.

We do have a few too-insane Christians who are more Progressive than actual Capitalist, but we tend to push them in the same corner we keep our tigers.


What has been seen out of the GOP does not reflect this in the least.

Oh, and I'm none too happy with Mitt, but he is a solid Moderate who is a good jumping point for an eventual return to Reagan-esque Republican presidents.


I fail to see how that's a good thing.
nichodemus
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Grand Duke

What has been seen out of the GOP does not reflect this in the least.


If anything, they're getting more noisy and making bi-partisan deals impossible. Not that the Democrats aren't, but the emergence of a more hardline Republican conservative faction is one of the root causes.
nitin007
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So I'm guessing that there are a lot of anti-Republican sympathies here? So any ideas why Senator Santorum dropped out?

zombinator2000
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Heck, I might cross the border to Mexico if such a thing happens
Here's the problem with the voting public. We all know people who say this aren't going to skip the country, but they still claim that the country's on the verge of failure. How long have people maintained that the current president was going to run the country into the ground? Since Carter at least, but we're still here.
Really the office of the president doesn't matter as much as people like to pretend. I'm probably going to vote for the most obscure candidate I can find.


Sadly, I don't have the resources to go across the border if he runs it into the ground. And if it didn't matter much who actually became president as long as we have one, heck, why vote on it? Just make a lottery or something, you get picked, congrats, you are president unless you want to pass.

I don't think so.
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I don't know why Santorum dropped out, but it's funny how Mitt, who until now had to follow a more radical line in order to keep up with Santorum for the more radical voters, now reverts to a less radical line in order to keep up with Obama for the less radical voters.

Gotta love presidential logic and manipulation

partydevil
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Gotta love presidential logic and manipulation


aka. lie more then the other guy so you get more votes.
then when your president. do a few things you said so that you can show you do what you say. and meanwhile just forget about the lies you made during the election period.

thats how it go's in the usa. the most charismatic liar becomes president.
zakyman
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Peasant

Gotta love presidential logic and manipulation


If Romney wins, than the economy will go into the toilet. He wants to go back to Bush-era policies which got us into this mess!
zombinator2000
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We still have them, thanks to Obama who actually expanded some of them.

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