Many have seen them. Many of us have played them. For years games have been created for our entertainment and many have come to our expectations. However,Time after time we see games that are just plain bad. We axpect them to be good since many of the previous games that the newer games have spawned from were the best we had ever played. But Games have sometimes failed our expectations. These game creators seem to make horrible choices when their games get so popular. There are many games that did not come to your expectations from Unreal flash to the one of the most recent games Mass effect 3 which we did not get to make our own choices at the end. These games took away some things and added other things we did not like. We get prommosed better weapons and graphics for the new unreal flash, but everything was worse than the previous game.
I have brought this up because I believe we should talk about what games have failed and what we would change in that certain game. We're gamers and we ought to have a say at what we want and what we don't want in a game and that these game creators, designers, nerds or whatever you call them, need to live up to what they have promised the gaming community.
We're gamers and we ought to have a say at what we want and what we don't want in a game and that these game creators, designers, nerds or whatever you call them, need to live up to what they have promised the gaming community.
I got something for you, take a look at some indie games instead of mainstream ones, they cater to the crowd because they don't a have a huge corporation watching their every input of code, they promise things because that stirrs up hype, when they dont get implemented oh well, we'll just make another game with it implemented since we got so much money from the first one.
Mass Effect 3 really didn't have to be good since they already were wrapping up the series and it would be more of a stretch to wrap it up well.
Folks, it's called voting with your wallet, not blidly buying on release day and ignoring the hype. It's really that simple to avoid nasty surprises. ;P
I got something for you, take a look at some indie games instead of mainstream ones, they cater to the crowd because they don't a have a huge corporation watching their every input of code, they promise things because that stirrs up hype, when they dont get implemented oh well, we'll just make another game with it implemented since we got so much money from the first one.
Mass Effect 3 really didn't have to be good since they already were wrapping up the series and it would be more of a stretch to wrap it up well.
Cute story, but that's not at all how things work. Period.
I think that this would be more or a matter of opinion because I thought every new game of Mario sucks and I thought the DS sucked when the Gameboy Advanced Sp was awesome
Mass Effect 3 really didn't have to be good since they already were wrapping up the series and it would be more of a stretch to wrap it up well.
Dude! What the heck are you saying? We got promised multiple choices on the game which was what most gamers loved about and some of the characters did what some of us can't make sense of. The only alternate ending of the game is different color explosions! That suck man! Very dissapointing.
Dude! What the heck are you saying? We got promised multiple choices on the game which was what most gamers loved about and some of the characters did what some of us can't make sense of. The only alternate ending of the game is different color explosions! That suck man! Very dissapointing.
It really seems like I didn't put it blatantly enough for you guys so here's a new version: The ending of Mass Effect 3 sucked like **** because the greedy *** corporation decided to not to give a **** about the fans of the series because it was more cost effective to not make multiple endings and just put different explosion colors, got it?
Cute story, but that's not at all how things work. Period.
You give us the "real world" veiw then. It's nice of you to say my reasoning is not how it works, but your just critisizing my explamation without telling us how it really works.
I think that this would be more or a matter of opinion because I thought every new game of Mario sucks and I thought the DS sucked when the Gameboy Advanced Sp was awesome
well I used to like the old marios alot more because the new ones definatley are easier, I still haven't beaten my old ones but beat the DS mario in a week.
It really seems like I didn't put it blatantly enough for you guys so here's a new version: The ending of Mass Effect 3 sucked like **** because the greedy *** corporation decided to not to give a **** about the fans of the series because it was more cost effective to not make multiple endings and just put different explosion colors, got it?
Yes you rate a game on its ending. Seems fair. I though the ending of Skyrim and Oblivion sucked but still it are two of the best games I have ever played. Mass Effect 3 was a great game and the ending is good if u understand it. Btw Bioware will release a new ending(s) for free.
Deathbewithyou: You're going to meet conflict. Lots of it. What you're bringing here is what has already been said. People need to buck up and actually have standards but the two problems are:
1) As KentyBK said, it's not happening. 2) Even if it did, you'd have conflict. . . lots of it. Sadly too many people are more than satisfied with the current formula, elements and quality of certain games (the primary example is Call of Duty).
KentyBK: Your attitude doesn't contribute to anything. Don't get me wrong -- you're right, but you're not really going to get anything good out of it if you just accept the way things currently are.
With that in mind, propagating your valid belief in order to enable the positive fashion of change would be a good idea.
Somewhat49: Your reasoning is. . . poor. Most game developers -- certainly those of Mass Effect want the game to be good, it was likely time / money constraints (the latter being unlikely) from the Publisher that forced that.
That, and being told how it works doesn't do anything towards your argument, and it wasn't being criticized (as the main point, unless you're taking "cute story" to heart).
Try looking at individual companies and relations between them. Bioware has been primarily a strong company -- finishing one of its most renowned franchises would not be done so lack-luster as many people have perceived it.
Indie Developers would be nothing to you if they were big companies, it seems. Not always do they stay loyal, and I'd say it would be rare.
Even if they were not, it would not be resolving the issue.
Mr_Sand: Yes. It is a matter of subjectivity. A lot of things are -- it's the logic and reason supporting it that makes it appear more valid, no?
xNightwish: Okay, first -- they are releasing new ending(s)?
Secondly. (This isn't really criticism for once) Can you elaborate on "if you can understand it"?
I've never played Mass Effect 3. Arguments here either have no point, are generalized or just poorly made in general. Buck it up, before you start either shooting people down (which you shouldn't be too much anyway) or trying to instigate a form of demand of 'roper' standards.
greenplanet011: Did you just read the thread name or the Original Post?
1) Gamers' standards need to change, as well as taste. The standards points mostly toward their capability to judge, understand and (not as importantly) play games. Judging is done from a very shallow level by the vast majority, and only when you begin looking at the actual elements of the game and seeing how it all works -- basing your decision (of whether you like or not) on what you know of it rather than blindly playing it.
2) Taste can be described as favours of genre, speed at which they like to play (fast paced games, not the 300 APM kind of speed). These change naturally as people are often shown in gaming history however there is little establishment or fleshing out in various types of games and not all things have been explored yet (You can come up with something eventually, and I guarantee one thing almost completely new will be there either this year or the next). People need to reward with money -- not buy entertainment (which nearly any game can provide).
Those that rake in the money are those judged by the majority as the best game developers -- and that wouldn't be a very shallow thing to hear, it should and would be respected. Yes, this is more far-sighted than most ideas of gaining an expectation.
This is better for people who get more out of their games by being very selective as well -- it can help them gain specific understanding unique to their game that would let them differentiate themselves from another player who has slightly different taste.
Games of all sorts are present -- but the only genre being adequately occupied is quite clearly the FPS genre. Primarily the RPG scene is the least fleshed out compared to its maximum capacity but the RTS scene is very empty, currently as well.
MMOs are taking a new turn since the WoW-Era is falling, slowly. More action based and not hotkey-based.
Anyway. This post didn't feel as good as I'd rather, so I'll just leave this as it is and wait for replies. . . enough blabbering for now.
xNightwish: Okay, first -- they are releasing new ending(s)?
Secondly. (This isn't really criticism for once) Can you elaborate on "if you can understand it"?
I've never played Mass Effect 3. Arguments here either have no point, are generalized or just poorly made in general. Buck it up, before you start either shooting people down (which you shouldn't be too much anyway) or trying to instigate a form of demand of 'roper' standards.
Yes I have read it in a Dutch site but I found a link.
Obviously some spoilers
Second. Everyone hates the ending in ME3 because it isn't like a fairytale. They don't live happily ever after and they think they didn't have any closure with their teammates. People want to see Shepard survive, take control of the Council and let the Normandy's crew rule the universe (I know not everyone wants this.) They want an ending like in LoTR. The enemy is destroyed forever and everyone who survived has a good life and I kind of like it that this isn't the matter with Mass Effect. People say that the ending is all the same except for some details. This is kind of true unless u use your fantasy. At the ending of the game you have to make the biggest mistake anyone can make. Decide the fate for everyone. And people say that your choices throughout the game didn't add anything to the outcome. Well they are wrong. To be able to get every ending your choices are important because your possibilities in the end are related to your war assets which you get with choices.
And third. The ending is 5 minutes from 10 hours or more gameplay. You cant rate a game for that. Because if u do every game or movie sucks.
So just in small form. Mass Effect isn't bad because it hasn't a fairytale ending.
The game that was supposedly about science, evolution, and making you're own choices as to how you would have you're creature grow and evolve. What we got: A game with 3 choices, whether it's what you eat, how you dominate you're enemies, or how you go about conquering the galaxy. You get THREE choices in each stage that determines how you evolve. That's pathetic
I was not impressed by this game like I was with MW4 or MW2, Yea I agree there were a few good things to it. With that said its pretty much the same story as the 1st and 2end. That's what buggs me they could of added a twist in this one to make it better.
AG Revelations.
Really short game play and some actions are buggy as in the 1st one. Story was good but did not make up for the lack of amount you have to spend on getting better armor and ammo which ammo is an ungodly amount if you use it allot.
To unlock some of the better armor you have to do some insane offline quest (I mean off story line)which can take hours or days to unlock a normal peace of armor or gear that is need for a part of the story, or if you don't have it you can't go back to unlock it so it gets again insanely hard.
I wish they just made it easier to get the gear or make it cheaper to get the lower end gear instead of paying 10K gold for a peace of gear that dose not work right.
I was not impressed by this game like I was with MW4 or MW2
Is mw4 already out. It is going fast these days. I hope you don't mean Call of duty 4 because I hate that mistake.
And Black Ops really failed me. It was supposed to be my number 1 game but when I got to a high level I had a feeling that I was screwed and I stopped. Never touched it again. I just didn't thought it was fun. Never played a FPS after that.
What about Duke Nukem Forever,it took 12 years to make and was a terrible game
For one it didnt take that long because they made other games in between. Also it was an entirely different developer so there is no way they were planning it for 12 years. And Duke Nukem only sucked because it was being compared with other games at the time. Don't trust every critic review. Besides Duke Nukem was made to look fairly old because the old game was the best
For one it didnt take that long because they made other games in between.
They weren't working full steam, but they were working on it the whole time. They went through countless engine changes that forced them to start over time and time again though.
