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unknown456
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SPOILER WARNING IF YOU HAVN'T SEEN THE REICHENBACH FALL. So for those of you who have seen The Reichenbach Fall how do you think Sherlock survived the fall. I think that he found the person who tortured/scared the little kids and used him somehow. Or maybe he had Molly use a body from the morgue and put a mask on him. But enough of my ideas put down your own.

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pickpocket
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He had the oxygen machine....
I haven't seen the movie in a while so thas all I remember

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@pickpocket, I believe that unknown456 is referring to the BBC television series "Sherlock".

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I haven't seen the movie in a while so thas all I remember

I think he's talking about the series here.

But I'm not sure. Since Sherlock survived, is it possible Moriarty did as well? It's confusing. All we saw was them on the rooftop, then suddenly he jumped off. Later on we see Watson at a cemetery and Sherlock is alive. All I know know is it's going to be something clever when they reveal it in the next season.
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Realized that I didn't contribute anything to the conversation except point out what GhostOfMatrix did. So...

I stand by your hypothesis about him getting help from Molly. After all, he did call her, stating that he needed her help. It still doesn't explain John seeing Sherlock's dead body with his own eyes, though it may have had something to do with the cyclist (if the cyclist was in fact hired by Sherlock). Your theory about there being a mask is clever and very well possible.

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I'm pretty sure that the body that Watson saw was actually Sherlock. There are a few things to be considered.

1. Sherlock was playing with a ball earlier, while in the lab. I've heard from many people that by squishing a ball against the artery in the armpit, you can cut off circulation temporarily to the arm, thus causing Watson to not feel his pulse.
2. Molly and Mycroft definitely had a part in his survival. Mycroft's reaction to Sherlock's death seemed a bit cold, more contemplative rather than upset. Perhaps he helped keep the streets empty or filled with hired passerby, in order to keep Watson disoriented and distant, and Molly provided the fake blood.
3. There was a short scene in which Sherlock and Moriarty were in a cell together. Why shoot such a scene? Perhaps, thus, both are alive and there is some other plot beneath the surface.
4. There was a short building in front of the larger morgue Sherlock was on, which caused Watson's perspective to be distorted.

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Since Sherlock survived, is it possible Moriarty did as well?

Highly unlikely, after all, his unfortunate suicide was actually on screen. It seems hard to fake shooting yourself in the face, especially when you are standing up against your own nemesis. More so, if he had not died, he would most likely have known how Sherlock's own suicide had been faked. After all, one thing is to get it to look real to bystanders on a street or in other buildings, another is to make it look real to someone a few meters behind you.
Lastly, the series is following the original stories rather well, considering the time period of choice, and it seems doubtful they are going to change such a big part of the plotline to bring back a (rather interesting) villain.

Anyway, yes, he most likely got help from Molly, in case he actually needed it. Now, I can't really read the distinct character of this Holmes, but he did seem like faking the suicide was going to be the very last option, and that he was in no way willing to let this very part go wrong, considering the lives at stake.
More so, Molly was never mentioned as one of the friends of Holmes, when Moriarty was threatening him. This gives Molly the perfect opportunity to be out of danger, and more importantly, she is out of sight. No one is watching her, so no one will know about her, most likely important, role in saving several people's lives.
What she did exactly will continue to be a mystery for a while.

And just to end this off: This episode, no matter the series, continues to annoy me. Not as much because of the mood swings and the apparent horror of the death of the main character, but mainly because Sir Conan Doyle was bullied into continuing the story past this point, which means leaving Watson with the traumatic experience of a good friend dying (horribly), just to have said friend come about three years later, all well and no issues.
Also, I liked Moriarty, he was, in this version, an amusing character.
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Um yeah to clear up any future confusion I do mean the BBC Sherlock. Also I should expand on my answer a bit more(when I first created this page I didnt think anybody would really post on it) anyways on to those two ideas I had. The first one with the kidnapper is I admit a little far-fetched. HOWEVER the second one is much more posssible. So basicly its like this in my head: Sherlock realizes that he has to die to complete Moriarty's game. So after he relizes this he goes to Molly get her help. He has her make mold of his head so its like a kind of mask. Then he simply gets a similary proportioned body from the morgue and dresses it up as himself with the mask on. Then he gets some of his home-less network people to help out with them being stationed around the fall area as spectators. Then he had a garbage truck parked infront of the building. Now with all of this set up he has the dead body put up in a bench just so it looks like it could be a real person who just fell asleep. Anyways the day comes and he jumps. Now to be honest this is the only problem with this theory (in my view) is that there is a fairly big gap between the building and the road with the garbage truck on it (aka the sidewalk) but lets just ignore that for now. Anyways as he falls he lands in the open back of the garbage truck which drives off. Then while all that is happening John is knocked over by the bicycle guy who is part of the home-less network. And while that is happening the dead body that is dressed up to be Sherlock is knocked onto the ground and is covered with fake blood.
Or basicly what this guy said: [url=http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrhWfuw9Pqs]
So anyways thats (sorta) my idea. Feel free to poke holes in it wherever you see fit.

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