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Posted Jul 18, '12 at 9:57pm

killersup10

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so,just about everybody has ruled out the possiblity of their being spcific Gods for a element.Such as the greek Gods,what is the difference however between believing in "mythology" and say for instance a Christan religion.Why is it more beliveable?Does anybody have a answer to why it is more believed that their is one God and not many? Why do people who believe in a God not realize that they are believing in the same thing that they also call rubbish?

 

Posted Jul 18, '12 at 10:20pm

VirtualLife

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That's the thing about religion. You may believe that it is complete garbage, but someone else may believe that it is true. It is just like atheism. Some people say that it is foolish that you believe that the universe just magically happened. Some people believe in aliens, while others call them crazy. You just have to accept that you might be right or wrong. But the most important thing is that you have to accept others, no matter how crazy their opinion may seem.

As far as Christianity, it is more believable than say mythology because we can definitively prove that mythology did not happen. We know why there are diseases now and we know how certain things were created. We don't just make up stories to prove that they happened. That is the thing mythology was created to tell how something happened.

Now, like it or not, there is no way to definitively prove that Christianity is completely false. Sure, you may be able to prove that parts of it are false, but as a whole you can't. That is the main difference - major religions that are present today cannot be completely proven false. You will never be able to scientifically prove if there is or isn't a God. You just have to believe one way or the other.

I don't mean to sound rude, but try to be a little more accepting of people. I know it sounds hard, but I've been trying to work on it and it has gotten better with me. I know that some people are extremely ignorant about religion and think that their religion is the only right way, but most people are more accepting than given credit for. I am somewhat in the middle. I don't wholly believe but I also don't wholly disbelieve.

So in answer to your question I suppose that that is the beauty of religion, you chose what to believe, no matter how crazy it seems.

 

Posted Jul 18, '12 at 10:51pm

Kasic

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As far as Christianity, it is more believable than say mythology because we can definitively prove that mythology did not happen. We know why there are diseases now and we know how certain things were created. We don't just make up stories to prove that they happened. That is the thing mythology was created to tell how something happened.

We've directly disproved an "instant creation" 6000 or so years ago as told in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. People still believe it though.

Gods,what is the difference however between believing in "mythology" and say for instance a Christan religion.

Large amounts of people still believe in one.

Why is it more beliveable?

It's not really. Just there are still people around to indoctrinate their kids and places for like-minded people to gather to reinforce each other's belief.

Does anybody have a answer to why it is more believed that their is one God and not many?

Hinduism is probably the largest religion which is polytheistic and has almost a billion followers.

It's just that more believe in Christianity/Islam and thus more are born into those religions, perpetuating the numbers of those who believe.

Why do people who believe in a God not realize that they are believing in the same thing that they also call rubbish?

When "faith" is espoused as a value, pretty much every thing else regarding that subject becomes a "no go zone" for thought. Faith is blind belief, and believers are taught to not question religious teaching/history/morals/values/etc.

If they are "taught" to question it, they are also taught to just accept whatever it is they find fault in it as "God's will/unknowable/how the world is/work of the devil" etc.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 12:38am

Pegasus16

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We've directly disproved an "instant creation" 6000 or so years ago as told in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. People still believe it though.

Wait, how have we directly disproved this?

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 12:44am

VirtualLife

VirtualLife

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It's not really. Just there are still people around to indoctrinate their kids and places for like-minded people to gather to reinforce each other's belief.

It's not indoctrination any more than atheism is indoctrination. Indoctrination is forcing the kid to believe that from an early age. I don't think that you should force, but I don't think it is indoctrination. I had religion from an early age but my parent's didn't force it. I don't feel like I was indoctrinated and many of my very religious friends have unreligious parents. I think that some people are gravitated towards religion and some aren't.

We've directly disproved an "instant creation" 6000 or so years ago as told in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. People still believe it though.

I don't know that the Bible teaches instant creation 6000 years ago. They think it was much, much longer ago. I know that there are those who believe in instant creation, but I don't agree with them. The one thing that keeps me from atheism is how things got there. Like where was the material for the big bang created. If someone could definitively answer this with little question then I would be willing to accept it. But right now I lean more towards agnostic than anything else.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 10:36am

Kasic

Kasic

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Wait, how have we directly disproved this?

We know through astronomy, physics, and geology (plus more) that the earth cannot have been around for less than billions of years. Unless you want to take the path that God is deceptive, which opens up a whole other can of worms, there's no getting around it.

Indoctrination is forcing the kid to believe that from an early age.

As Oxford defines it: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically:
broadcasting was a vehicle for indoctrinating the masses"

Indoctrinate

So yes, parents are indoctrinating their children by taking them to a church and telling them that their religion is true because they say it is and that God is good. They aren't teaching their children to question that religion, but to accept it as 100% true and unquestionable.

I had religion from an early age but my parent's didn't force it. I don't feel like I was indoctrinated and many of my very religious friends have unreligious parents.

A good reason to not feel indoctrinated if you weren't forced to believe it. Many children are, however. They are punished by their parents for not believing it, get lectured when questioning, are forced to attend worship and participate in ceremonies/traditions.

I think that some people are gravitated towards religion and some aren't.

That's something which neuroscientists have been researching I believe.

I don't know that the Bible teaches instant creation 6000 years ago.

The literal interpretation of the Bible teaches that everything was created as is. Given time-lines of people's lives in the Bible and historical events which correlate to those stories, one can form a timeline that the Earth is no older than 10,000 years at the extreme end.

There are also people who take the "1000 days of man are equal to a day of God" which gives us the 6000 year base line with the "On the 7th day he rested."

Either way, the majority of Christians believe in a young earth.

They think it was much, much longer ago.

Some do. Most don't.

The one thing that keeps me from atheism is how things got there.

There's nothing wrong about admitting that we don't know.

In my opinion, believing something which is horribly contradictory, unable to be tested, hearsay and irrational for the simple reason that we don't yet have all the answers is the equivalent of an ignorant 6 year old telling making up a story to explain something which he doesn't have the slightest clue about in order to look knowledgeable.

Like where was the material for the big bang created.

As I said above, we don't know yet. There's theories about it, which you can just Google and Wikipedia to get a basic understanding/list. Not really the topic of this thread though so I'll keep off the subject.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 11:23am

thepunisher93

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We've directly disproved an "instant creation" 6000 or so years ago as told in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. People still believe it though.

Science keeps on changing, what is right now, can be wrong tomorrow, for example once heroin was thought excellent drug for cough now it isn't.
So, nothing is certain in science.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 11:31am

killersup10

killersup10

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So, nothing is certain in science.

Okay,another question.Which is more certian? This is hard to word so please bear with Killersup.Okay,so is there a higher percentage of religion that is correct or science? the absolute truth,when there is 100% chance of it being correct.Does science have a higher percentage? Or does another religion have a higher percentage that it correct?

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 11:33am

killersup10

killersup10

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of religion

okay so Killersup worded that incorectly.He ment a single religion,is there a single religion that is "more" correct then science?

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 11:52am

Kasic

Kasic

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for example once heroin was thought excellent drug for cough now it isn't.

It was thought that before anyone really ever tested it...science (as in the scientific method) was used to determine that no, it isn't.

Unless you wish to provide some links?

Science keeps on changing, what is right now, can be wrong tomorrow,

It corrects itself, yes. That's what makes it oh so much better than static untestable beliefs.

Even -if- everything we think we know is wrong (not likely, seeing as how we use that knowledge daily in many things) I'd rather change what I think is true to something more valid than just stick with the same thing which we know is not, but claim everything else is wrong.

 
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