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Posted Aug 7, '12 at 12:57pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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First a guy shoots people in a theater, and now this
My Question is are you americans losing it or what?

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 1:18pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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Posted Aug 7, '12 at 1:21pm

DSM

DSM

795 posts

It all because of legal guns. No guns, no shooting.

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 1:39pm

loco5

loco5

1,289 posts

It all because of legal guns. No guns, no shooting.

because if there is no legal way to obtain guns, criminals will totally follow that law.

Shouldn't there be a psychological test to get guns?

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 2:23pm

danielo

danielo

1,365 posts

because everywher else, you wont get shot for getting into "the wrong streets". criminals are considered "dengeruse" if they have a pistol. not ak-47s and rocket lunchers and the garage. a pocket knife, not a Uzi. and when a man in israel is realy pisset off on someone, he vandalaise his house, not going to his home or gathering place and start shooting. "tag mehir" - 'price tag' - these stuiped setlers go to mosques and graffiti on them. because they dont have guns. palestinians throw rocks {and when things get realy nasty, molotov ****tails on passing cars}, not just shoot. its ileagal, so they have very hard time getting it.
i know, in USA you there is a large scale growing of guns on trees, but in the rest of the world {exept Switzerland}, when you bann it, people dont have it.

and no, its not normal that you have enough fire power to rebel. aotumatic guns that can resist arrest, unless its supported by SWAT. its normal when the police have guns. not the mass.

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 5:32pm

DSM

DSM

795 posts

because if there is no legal way to obtain guns, criminals will totally follow that law.

So what you are saying is that police is useless, and cant catch a few uneducated lawbreakers? If that the case, then why have the police in the first place?

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 6:18pm

NoNameC68

NoNameC68

5,069 posts

Knight

and no, its not normal that you have enough fire power to rebel. aotumatic guns that can resist arrest, unless its supported by SWAT. its normal when the police have guns. not the mass.

SWAT teams are hired thugs. MOST PEOPLE WHO OWN GUNS use morality before they use a firearm. SWAT teams kill for their paycheck. They are trained killers who will point a gun at anyone without question as long as they're getting paid. I'm not saying SWAT teams are bad, I'm just saying that people who are a part of SWAT teams don't give a **** who their gun is pointed at, unlike most gun owning citizens.

The general masses shouldn't own guns? Most gun owners aren't criminals. Most gun owners keep their guns at home. If more citizens carried firearms, there would generally be less crime.

First a guy shoots people in a theater, and now this
My Question is are you americans losing it or what?

The man is a white supremacist. I am pretty **** certain he would have killed those people whether guns were legal or not.

Gun shootings are scary because they come out of nowhere. Nobody expects them and innocent people get hurt. You imagine, "it could happen to me", and you picture it happening. It seems so plausible. Take a step back and remember that we live in a population of 300,000,000 people.

Gun crime rates in America are high compared to countries where there is a total ban on guns. However, this doesn't change the fact that when it comes to gun owners, most of them don't abuse their gun rights. If we want to end gun violence, we must figure out how to put a steak in the heart of gang operations. We should encourage citizens to carry firearms as a means of self defense rather than creating more gun free zones. We should find alternative ways to decrease crime so that we don't punish the innocent.

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 6:37pm

Jeff1999

Jeff1999

647 posts

Lets just make guns more expencive,  then there would be no shooting and killing, no war and murdery. Lets just tell people that to buy guns they will need 1200000$

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 6:40pm

EnterOrion

EnterOrion

3,615 posts

It all because of legal guns. No guns, no shooting.

Is this sarcasm? I hope this is sarcasm.

The majority of gun crimes use weapons illegally obtained. Fact.

So what you are saying is that police is useless, and cant catch a few uneducated lawbreakers?

What does that have to do with anything? Let's back up to a very base point: Police do NOT protect individuals, but society as a whole. They cannot stop you from being murdered, they will just catch your killer. They are a deterrent, not a protective force. Police are there for after a crime has been committed, not before. Trust me, you do not want to live in a society where they can stop every crime (unless you like a totalitarian police state, then by all means, love it).

My Question is are you americans losing it or what?

No more than anybody else. You take a few people, three or four, and say Americans as a whole are losing it? Do you see what's wrong with this picture?

and no, its not normal that you have enough fire power to rebel.

Who cares if it's normal? It keeps the power hungry pigs at the top in check.

aotumatic guns that can resist arrest,

Considering how on a year to year basis, there are typically only enough murders involving automatic weapons that I can count on one hand, none of which are legally obtained, I think you need to worry about absolute numbers and not potential for damage. In three days, with just the materials at my house, I can create a bomb powerful enough to kill dozens. Will I? No. It's not potential for damage that's important, or intent of manufacture, but absolute statistical value that gun laws need to be created, and adjusted, on.

 

Posted Aug 7, '12 at 6:42pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

3,950 posts

Lets just make guns more expencive,  then there would be no shooting and killing, no war and murdery. Lets just tell people that to buy guns they will need 1200000$

Theft, my friend.

Besides, the Constitution does grant free rights towards all, and that would favor the rich. That and gun-merchants and the capitalist ideas of our economy decides how much guns should cost. The gov.t could impose taxes, but that wouldn't go down well.

There's some more that's wrong with that, but I don't think I need to go into further detail.

 
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