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Posted Oct 2, '12 at 10:49am

jeol

jeol

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Where did I mention Catholics, of course they are part of Christianity but they don't arrogantly call themselves the only Christians the way the American version of the Protestants do.

#generalization

From what I can tell, there are Catholics who are Christians (who actually believe and follow Jesus), and there are those who aren't. There are also Protestants who claim they are Christians, and those who actually believe and follow Jesus.

Anyways, on the topic (even though we can't see the whole title?), usually atheists are offended by religion or some such when they are young and hold that grudge for the rest of their lives. After that it's more of a 'obliterate ALL' sort of mindset (why does anyone believe this crap? I hate this, how can anyone like this?). Not that all of them see it that way, but seriously, how many people reject religion because it seems silly? And they wonder why Christians don't believe in Evolution... :P

Some Christians like to claim (/joke) that atheists came up with Evolution as an excuse for not wanting to believe in theism, but that's a bit profound, I suppose.

Comming back to topic - it doesn't make sense. So you're offended by just meeting religious Christians? Then that puts YOU on the offence. Perhaps that's why you're meeting with retribution - if you start saying they're wrong to be religious, they'll try to defend themselves and convince you they're not.

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Posted Oct 2, '12 at 9:15pm

SSTG

SSTG

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Knight

Okay then stand outside a Catholic church and ask people how do they call themselves, then try the same outside a protestant church and count how many catholic would answer Catholics and how many protestants
will say they are protestant.

 

Posted Oct 2, '12 at 11:34pm

Kasic

Kasic

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Okay then stand outside a Catholic church and ask people how do they call themselves, then try the same outside a protestant church and count how many catholic would answer Catholics and how many protestants
will say they are protestant.

I can already tell you the answer from experience (not by surveying outside a church but w/e).

Catholics will say either Catholic or Christian.
Protestants will say either their denomination or Christian.

So while "protestant" Christians don't say, "I'm protestant" they DO say things like, "I'm a Baptist" or "I'm a Methodist." Why would they refer to themselves as disobedient to the original branch of Christianity?

 

Posted Oct 3, '12 at 1:11am

SSTG

SSTG

10,759 posts

Knight

Why would they refer to themselves as disobedient to the original branch of Christianity?

That's my point, so if it's not arrogance then it's because they are ashamed of that fact.

 

Posted Oct 3, '12 at 10:24am

Kasic

Kasic

5,568 posts

That's my point, so if it's not arrogance then it's because they are ashamed of that fact.

No, I'm pretty sure it's because they hold a different view than the Catholics. They split off because they thought that Catholicism wasn't the right way to worship God/follow his teachings/that they were corrupt. Nothing to do with being ashamed or arrogant.

Back to the topic, when people meet and feel offended because of the other person's views, it's likely because of things like this. Someone asserts a position (for example, that protestants are arrogant/ashamed) based on their view and don't take into consideration that there's more than one viewpoint in the whole world.

 

Posted Oct 4, '12 at 7:33pm

MageGrayWolf

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Knight

how many people reject religion because it seems silly? And they wonder why Christians don't believe in Evolution... :P

Not really following you here. What does someone not believing a religion because they find a religious belief silly have to do with those who do believe it rejecting science?

Some Christians like to claim (/joke) that atheists came up with Evolution as an excuse for not wanting to believe in theism, but that's a bit profound, I suppose.

And those people would be dead wrong. The initial proposal for evolution comes from ancient Greek philosophy. These people would have likely believed in the existence of Zeus. The theory as it is today first developed in the 18 and 19th century by those who were Christian. It finally gained popularity and rose above other proposed theories with Charles Darwin discovering the mechanism by which evolution works. (Who by the way was also Christian.)

The only thing profound about claiming/joking that atheists came up with it as some sort of excuse with any seriousness is that it's profoundly dumb.

 

Posted Oct 4, '12 at 8:52pm

jeol

jeol

3,565 posts

: Joke. Key word.

Not really following you here. What does someone not believing a religion because they find a religious belief silly have to do with those who do believe it rejecting science?

The thought was that atheists might consider religion silly in a very observant look at it, but religious people consider the same in regards to Evolution. Not to be offensive, but just as mockingly as atheists may look at religion. Totally disregarding of 'facts' or 'faith.'

 

Posted Oct 6, '12 at 3:05pm

deathbewithyou

deathbewithyou

586 posts

Successful troll is successful.

Spam!

Anyway, to the person who posted this thread, I have no idea why you are insulted because you didn't give me the full question. The possible question is; "Why do they feel like they need to save me? or something....

Well how about a question like this; "Why do atheists feel like they need to tell me my beliefs are wrong?"

Of course, that only happened to me once when I was walking in a store with a christian T-shirt on.

 

Posted Oct 6, '12 at 3:29pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,568 posts

"Why do atheists feel like they need to tell me my beliefs are wrong?"

It depends on the person. Most atheists I know are perfectly content to let people believe whatever they want. What concerns us is actions they take because of those beliefs. When religion is used as a reason to try and institute change or enforce morals is when we feel the need to point out why that shouldn't happen, which inevitably leads to getting into the quasi factual basis of said religion.

The other times are when religion is constantly brought up in a discussion in terms of a generalization or something like that.

 

Posted Oct 6, '12 at 5:58pm

NoNameC68

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Knight

This is why I love this part of the community. You guys can take just about any thread and transform it into a place of respectable debate and/or discussion.

It really does makes my job much easier. I almost never have to do any actual "mod" work here at all. I've grown lazy. I blame you guys.