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Posted Jan 30, '13 at 9:50pm

samiel

samiel

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Probably a bias in that view, as you're more likely to pay attention to/remember every time someone calls you something, as opposed to being present for and remembering every time it happens to someone else for the gay/atheist bashing.

like I said I support homosexuality and no im not athiest biased I used to be atheist myself in a rough patch in my life
 

Posted Jan 30, '13 at 10:32pm

HUA7XFan122396

HUA7XFan122396

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I am an Atheist, and I have a lot of homosexual friends. Homosexuals are born that way and stay that way, it's not a choice. And as for me being an Atheist, I just don't have time for all this religious crap, I go to a Catholic School, and in my religion class, I hear very smart people, praise God and say that people did impossible things. I just want to know how they know that there is any God in the first place, and how they know that Polytheism is false, how do they know there isn't more than one God? Also, the Jesus that they all think was perfect was like a terrorist in some Gospel Translations, and the reason there are only 4 gospels in the bible is because the rest of them had things about Jesus killing people, and badmouthing his teachers and such... One more reason why I am Atheist is because the Church was corrupt, and it will be corrupt again. They excommunicated a monk a couple months ago for trying to help women gain power in the church. Religion should just end altogether, is what I think. But, the day that God comes down from the Heavens and performs a miracle of some kind... That will be the day I become a Christian.

 

Posted Jan 30, '13 at 10:57pm

Strop

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I was wondering who you guys think has it harder when it comes to prejudice and hate, gays or atheists?


I happen to live in an area where I can safely say that Christians have it harder than atheists, and maybe even possibly the queer constituent (and homosexual Christians have it the hardest). I won't say this is common, because homophobic expressions are still commonplace mostly everywhere.

Round here it's virtually de rigeur to make some disparaging comment about Christianity or Christians and how out of step they are with modern values. Of greater controversy is the laws due for consideration in Parliament re: anti-discrimination and religious practice, specifically taking away the right of religious institutions to hire based on religion and sexual identity. Given that these are outdated laws that are indeed out of step with current anti-discrimination practice that most people consider to be a no-brainer. Therefore the current PM did herself a great disservice by reassuring the social conservative religious lobby that she won't stifle the right to discriminate by religion or sexuality in the new, well, "anti-discrimination" laws, and quite possibly the biggest challenge the Church in general has to face is how they're going to deal with this shift in values, and just how integral it is to them, whether they continue to insist that this is part of the immutable word of God... or not. The Uniting Church, being social moderate-liberal, has been fractured over this issue, and I've seen a resurgence in other more spiritual denominations in a reassertion of what they consider to be their rights. It's going to get messier.

But to put things into perspective, I can think of places where you would have an equally hard time (i.e. you would probably be imprisoned, tortured, or killed) if you were a) atheist b) Christian or c) homosexual: Most Middle-Eastern countries, most African countries, much of the Indian subcontinent, much of South-East Asia, North Korea immediately spring to mind.
 

Posted Jan 31, '13 at 1:56pm

thebluerabbit

thebluerabbit

5,408 posts

But, the day that God comes down from the Heavens and performs a miracle of some kind... That will be the day I become a Christian.


you know, christianity isnt the only religion.

and i also have to ask: what if that god comes down, does some kind of miracle, and then you find out you totally disagree with him and think he is evil and immoral? would you still become christian and follow him?
 

Posted Jan 31, '13 at 9:01pm

HUA7XFan122396

HUA7XFan122396

79 posts

and i also have to ask: what if that god comes down, does some kind of miracle, and then you find out you totally disagree with him and think he is evil and immoral? would you still become christian and follow him?

Well, in the Bible God made a bet with Satan, I believe he bet everything the Job owned that Job wouldn't turn against God, or something like that. But if he did come down and do something evil, I would believe that he was real, but I wouldn't become a Christian, I would just acknowledge that he did in fact exist.
 

Posted Feb 1, '13 at 3:18am

thebluerabbit

thebluerabbit

5,408 posts

But if he did come down and do something evil, I would believe that he was real, but I wouldn't become a Christian, I would just acknowledge that he did in fact exist.


that warmed my heart and made me smile. we need more people like these
 

Posted Feb 2, '13 at 2:53pm

Lanod

Lanod

28 posts

everyone in my school thinks im gay, though im not. they harrass me nearly non-stop

 

Posted Feb 2, '13 at 2:54pm

Lanod

Lanod

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i think gay would be harder

 

Posted Feb 3, '13 at 12:06pm

MagicTree

MagicTree

773 posts

I think that being gay would be harder.

I'm an Atheist, my primary school was a Catholic School. The Catholic Church is very bent on money and power (and I don't care if I'm blaspheming). Lots of people also think I'm gay ( I can see why) but I just shrug it off. I'm rarely slagged or teased about being gay, even though I'm not. But in school, the teachers would have put up prayers and say stuff about how important it is to think that you have a "guardian angel" guarding and minding you. Meh.

But the Catholic Church treats both like crap. I think that gay people would have it harder though.

 
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