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superbobdabest
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Well he won.

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Romney got more votes but Obama got more elecrol votes.

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SSTG
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And people, when you talk about how people just need to pay more taxes and all that crap, remember this, Bill gates last year made 20 billion dollars, if you tookk away every cent of that, would it really a noticable impact on he national debt?

Here you go again, you're talking about Obama taking all the money from Bill Gates. He doesn't want to take all the money from riches, he just want to let the tax break expire the way it was planned in the first place by the Republicans, nothing else.

Everybody should pay their taxes, it makes common sense.
He won't take away your precious guns, so quit obsessing over this.
Also, he want's to cut the useless money channeled through the military because it is unsupervised, which mean that crooks like Penis Cheney can inflate the cost of everything through their companies (remember Halliburton? ) and put the profit in their pockets.
Obama will give what the military ask for, nothing more. By doing this he will save millions that could be used for more important things.
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Amen brother!
@sal: Biden ain't the brightest candle when it comes to thinking before saying. He recently said that Romney wants a five hundred trillion dollar tax cut among a hundred and twenty thousand Americans, let me tell you if a hundred and twenty thousand people are paying that much then they certainly need a tax cut. And he also in an interview gave away the location of his secret bomb shelter. Those are the only two things that immediately come to my mind but I'm sure there are others.

I remember he said some stuff and then said, "I would give you proof, but its too hot so I'm gonna go." Yeah.... Who thought it was a good idea to make him vp?
WAIT! I get it now! They needed someone terrible so no butt hurt white guy would kill Obama! Mind=blown.
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Am I the only one who thought that both the candidates weren't good and that Vermin Supreme should have won?
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Tick tock goes the clock
Just so you guys can see how much we are in debt.

MageGrayWolf
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Oh well yeah about 47% of people are lazy and (as predicted) would vote for him no matter what because Obama promised to give them the most stuff.


Many of those lazy people in that 47% (actually it's closer to 46.4%) pay more in payroll taxes than Romney payed on his taxes. These people include the elderly, military personnel/vets, working poor families (making $50,000 a year), low income families (making $27,000 or less). These are the people Romney called lazy, if intended to mean them or not.
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but don't forget mage that there are still plenty of people on welfare etc. that want higher taxes so that they get more stuff. there are (perhaps not that high) plenty of lazy people out there that would vote for him no matter what he did so long as they cashed in.

SSTG
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but don't forget mage that there are still plenty of people on welfare etc. that want higher taxes so that they get more stuff. there are (perhaps not that high) plenty of lazy people out there that would vote for him no matter what he did so long as they cashed in.

I agree with you that there are lazy people but those on welfare who expect freebies won't get anything unless they prove that they're making some effort to find a job. They might get away with it in Canada but not in the US.
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That's all you're worried about? Your precious gun?!? :O
You voted for an hypocrite who doesn't give a danm about you or any American but himself just because you thought Obama would take away your gun?
I mean come on, get a grip on reality. sstg

we have the same views

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Here you go again, you're talking about Obama taking all the money from Bill Gates. He doesn't want to take all the money from riches, he just want to let the tax break expire the way it was planned in the first place by the Republicans, nothing else.


I think you misconstrued what he said, I can't be certain, but I do think that he was referring to the fact that raising or lowering taxes won't really help with lowering your national debt, because even though millionaires are rich they would hardly dent what America owes. I do not think that he was saying that Obama wants to take Bill Gates's money.
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I agree with you that there are lazy people but those on welfare who expect freebies won't get anything unless they prove that they're making some effort to find a job. They might get away with it in Canada but not in the US.


Woman walks into an Italian restaurant with an Italian flag hanging by the door. She asks for a resume, fills it out, then asks "What kind of restaurant is this?" She then asked the manager to sign a paper proving she looked for a job.

True story. It's ridiculously easy to search for a job and to blotch everything on purpose.
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I doubt that Mitt Romney is a financial genius.

TheMostManlyMan
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I agree with you that there are lazy people but those on welfare who expect freebies won't get anything unless they prove that they're making some effort to find a job. They might get away with it in Canada but not in the US.

I wish that were true, but those people are the ones getting unemployment compensation, different from those on welfare (many of whole have never and aren't planning in ever working a day in their life). Look at the occupy walls treat movement, bunch of druggy wellfare snobs wanting more money.

And yes what vinheisenourg said was right. If you took all of the rich people's money it wouldn't come close to compensating all the government spending. Fun fact, all of he gold, silver and platinum in the world wouldn't pay off the U.S. national debt.
SSTG
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And yes what vinheisenourg said was right. If you took all of the rich people's money it wouldn't come close to compensating all the government spending. Fun fact, all of he gold, silver and platinum in the world wouldn't pay off the U.S. national debt.

Maybe not but it would be a start.
Congressmen should be elected for their merits and not for their party affiliation.
TheMostManlyMan
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But a much better start would be cutting spending. Much better than taking people's hard earned money.

So I have a couple of question regarding this "rich people parasites" thing. So whoa if you ran into a ton of money, if you found out that you really have a thing for musicians become a famous rock star. And you become a millionaire and keep a fair amount for yourself, would you consider yourself a parasite like other rich people who keep a fair amount for themselves?
Also, do you realize that we need wealthy people like Bill Gates to be wealthy to create jobs, and that of everyone had the same paying jobs then we would be short on jobs because nobody has the money to start a big business hat creates jobs?

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but don't forget mage that there are still plenty of people on welfare etc. that want higher taxes so that they get more stuff. there are (perhaps not that high) plenty of lazy people out there that would vote for him no matter what he did so long as they cashed in.


Are you implying that if you are on welfare you're lazy? The percentage of Americans on welfare is only 4.1%, a far cry from the 47% percent Romney claims is "lazy". Sure I won't deny that there are those on welfare abusing the system but how many do you think that is in that 4.1%?

Let me help you. By this source they are giving an estimate of less than 2% committing fraud. For the sake o argument let's just say 2% even. If I did my math right that would mean 0.082% are legitimately lazy.
SSTG
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So I have a couple of question regarding this "rich people parasites" thing. So whoa if you ran into a ton of money, if you found out that you really have a thing for musicians become a famous rock star. And you become a millionaire and keep a fair amount for yourself, would you consider yourself a parasite like other rich people who keep a fair amount for themselves?

They're not parasite if they pay the normal amount of tax.
If a teacher who makes 50 000 /year pays 30% tax why shouldn't a rich guy who make 5 million or 5 billion /year pay the same percentage?
It would still be 30%.
Also, do you realize that we need wealthy people like Bill Gates to be wealthy to create jobs, and that of everyone had the same paying jobs then we would be short on jobs because nobody has the money to start a big business hat creates jobs?

The problem is that those rich guys move their business in China so that they don't have to respect security norms, to protect the employees which the Americans work hard to get (remember the teamsters and all the violence back then from employers toward their workers?). Also when they move their factories there they don't have to pay a decent salary to the workers.
If those rich guys would stay here and employ people then it would be fair to give them a tax break since everybody benefit, the workers spend here in the US and the economy gets better.
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