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Posted Nov 15, '12 at 7:06pm

Kasic
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What if majority wants it?
Then the majority can not go to nightclubs. Simple, yes?
There can't be any "New Sharia law"
Things always change, and new things always pop up. 1500 years ago there wasn't Islam to begin with anyhow.
they are classified as Halal and Haraam
Literal black and white thinking I see.
And this is the exact same thing that USA does.
To an extent I suppose, but in an entirely different manner.
USA never does anything for charity, as a matter of fact, no nation does.
So stop painting them as some hospital nation.
Does it matter if it's not entirely for charity? The world doesn't run on charity.
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Posted Nov 15, '12 at 7:21pm

thepunisher93
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Then the majority can not go to nightclubs. Simple, yes?
Or you can ban it because the majority wants it so
Things always change, and new things always pop up. 1500 years ago there wasn't Islam to begin with anyhow.
Actually there can't be any new sharia law
Any addition to Islam is callerd biddaa and it is not allowed by Holy prophet.
If you don't follow him, you are not muslim
Literal black and white thinking I see.
Problem?
Does it matter if it's not entirely for charity? The world doesn't run on charity.
Yes it does, it just shows the hypocrisy of world.
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Posted Nov 15, '12 at 7:36pm

Kasic
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Or you can ban it because the majority wants it so
In this case, I would question how much the majority is. 51% is no reason to ban something. 99.99% is, because usually there's a pretty good reason if that many are against it.
Any addition to Islam is callerd biddaa and it is not allowed by Holy prophet.
If you don't follow him, you are not muslim
Well, as I said before, things always change eventually.
Problem?
It can be. Trying to shove the entire world into one view or another just doesn't work.
Yes it does, it just shows the hypocrisy of world.
There's a large difference between not doing something for charity and extortion.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 6:53am

thepunisher93
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In this case, I would question how much the majority is. 51% is no reason to ban something. 99.99% is, because usually there's a pretty good reason if that many are against it.
we have 95% muslim majority in pakistan.
Well, as I said before, things always change eventually.
Well for past 1400 years, Quran has not.
It can be. Trying to shove the entire world into one view or another just doesn't work.
Like america does.
"You are either with us, or against us."
Bin ladin did not say this.
There's a large difference between not doing something for charity and extortion.
Again, like US of A
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 10:48am

partydevil
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The best army is the one who keep the interest of his country.
then why is the usa sticking their noses everywhere they do not belong?
most of these problems had nothing to do whit usa until they sended in a army and started to kill people.
you are forcing your will over other people. even if they do not fall under your jurisdiction. you do this by laws and wars.
and we are kinda done whit you policing the world. we dont have to listen to your laws. and if we must, then why do you not listen to the laws of others? but instead start bombing the place.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 10:53am

partydevil
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Well for past 1400 years, Quran has not.
and so didn't the morals?
are the 1400 year old morals not ready for a patch or update?
seems to me it's kinda lacking behind.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 11:02am

danielo
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Because if tehy sat in there homes without doing anything, Russia might controled the entire europe. Communism might controled the entire asia. Japan as we know it - gone. South korea - gone.
If russia "didnt shoved it nose" Then there were no communist vietnam. If china - no north korea.
Get it?
If Israel will sit still while syria, for say, arm itself to war {like in 1967} there was no Israel today.
USA made thet netherland is not a dictatorship now, or even just well built and not with a weak economy like most of the ex soviet countries.
And just to make it clear, USA never fought against a country by itself. In vietnam, south vietnam asked fro USA helped and fought together with USa. In korea, south korea. In afganistan, there were many groups who fought with USA against the Taliban.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 11:06am

danielo
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And punisher, as i said, im sure that all of pakistan is against western life style. 100% precents. Every single muslim in pakistan wanted these horrible clubs to be closed. Thw qomens demand to ge stoned if they are found guilty in adultress. The students will almost riot if the government wont close the universities and make them Islam universities instead.
Because of peoples like you we are walking back in time.
Punisher, im disapointed. And i hope the peopels here will understand that not all of the muslims are like you.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 11:25am

partydevil
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Russia might controled the entire europe.
not likely, as the allied forces freed west europe fin ww2. and ussr did whit east europe.
from that moment (and befor ww2, parts) of europe were allready democratic.
beside was there never a war over europe after ww2. russia did not try. only east europe that they liberated. where some country voted to join ussr. thus by own choise.
Communism might controled the entire asia
maybe then we would have gotten more successful communist countries like cuba and "china".
communism is not the root of all evil. you made it the root of all evil by your propaganda.
If russia "didnt shoved it nose" Then there were no communist vietnam.
vietnam was already communist befor the war.
If Israel will sit still while syria, for say, arm itself to war {like in 1967} there was no Israel today.
maybe that would have been better. (looking at the situation israel is in ever sines.)
USA made thet netherland is not a dictatorship now,
dude we were a democracy befor the usa existed.
we and britian builded the usa from nothing.
whitout us. all americans would have been native americans doing the rain dance. and not the bounce of fools living there now.
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Posted Nov 16, '12 at 12:55pm

thepunisher93
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and so didn't the morals?
are the 1400 year old morals not ready for a patch or update?
seems to me it's kinda lacking behind.
No, when ever a new problem arises which was not present before.
It is decided as halal or haram based on similar cases of past this is called ijtihad.
And punisher, as i said, im sure that all of pakistan is against western life style. 100% precents. Every single muslim in pakistan wanted these horrible clubs to be closed.
Did I ever said so?
Thw qomens demand to ge stoned if they are found guilty in adultress. The students will almost riot if the government wont close the universities and make them Islam universities instead.
Their is no sentence of stoning in constitution as it is in british style.
Also, Islam does not oppose education.
You seem to hold the view though falsely that muslims are only allowed to learn about Islam and nothing else.
But I can't blame you for that, after all you are an Israeli, what else one can expect to be taught in Israeli schools.
Now I have a feeling that we have derailed from topic.
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