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Posted Nov 21, '12 at 8:50pm

navysealmike

navysealmike

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So people don't ignore this, I'm not mentally unstable, I don't have any issues with my brain, and I didn't get abducted by aliens! I'm just here to show people SCIENTIFIC PROOF that the world will not end on December 21st, 2012. I've talked to multiple people on these forums, and many others and they still believe in the whole "mayan calender ending in 2012 apocalypse" BS. Let me start out with the facts.

1) Mayan Calender: The Mayan long count is a non-repeating, vigesimal (base-20) and base-18 calendar used by several Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures, most notably the Maya. The way it works is that after 584,283 it comes to an end and a new one starts. Just like our calendar ends 31st December, changes the year and starts again on the 1st of January. This in principle is how the Mayan calendar works. Currently the Mayan long count is at 12.19.19.16.10 and come December 21st, 2012, it will become 13.0.0.0.0 so that's 13 cycles since this calender was put into play. It's like the odometer being reset on your car, the car is still there, but the numbers are reset. Nothing is changed, nothing happens, it's just a Baktun 14 starts. The date was used by psuedo-scientists, who aren't scientists at all.

2) Nibiru (Planet X): This theory is simply idiotic. The crazy people that believe this planet is going to crash into Earth, should be locked in an insane asylum. Let me just point out the obvious, it's November 21st, 2012, 1 month from the apparent impact, but yet this (non-existent) planet is not visible. Surely, if a planet 10-times the size of Earth was coming towards us, it would be visible by the naked-eye, and from telescopes all around the world. It's not! Some other theories are, that it has a 3600-year orbit around the sun. So does that mean it (non-existent planet) hits Earth every 3600 years? I'm pretty sure people have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and our planet has been around for billions of years. This theory is just stupid, and there is NO scientific proof of it's existence, because, IT DOESN'T EXIST!

3) Asteroids, Meteors, Comets: I'll keep this one short, because this we can't really rebut. The Earth has been hit by asteroids, and meteors in the past. We cannot simply say that the Earth won't get bombarded again, but as of now, no near-Earth objects (NEO) will have any impact of our lives for the next few decades. I know, decades, very short period of time, but NASA is experimenting ways for us to avoid being the target of a fierce NEO.

4) Earthquakes, Volcanic Eruptions, Tsunamis: Again, we cannot rebut this one either. These things happen all of the time, but the Earth is in a mid-life crisis, no pun intended. The tectonic plates are moving, sliding, crashing all of the time. It's not abnormal, it's been happening for millions of years. As of now, seismic activity, volcanoes, and anything of that nature at it's norm. Surely if something catastrophic was to happen, we would have some signs by now? To believe in a massive tsunami the size of Texas, is just stupid.

5) Past D-Days: December 21, 2012 - This isn't the first date of an apparent doomsday, and it won't be the last. December 31st, 1999 - January 1st, 2000 - This date is important, because it was the first year we ever had a "2000". Disregard any of the apparent and BS rumors during that time, people just assumed because we've never seen a "2000" before, the world must end! RIGHT!? No! Then in May 2003, Nancy Lieder (she was abducted by Zeta Aliens, and they told her about "nibiru") told people Nibiru would impact Earth in May of 2003. This didn't happen, so these Leider-followers researched the Mayan Calender, changed the name of their websites, and changed the date the world would end. First, it was November 21st, 2011, well we're still alive and it's a year after that. Then it was November 19th, 2012, well it's 21st, so let me guess.. nothing happened? Now it's December 21st, 2012. This date is the start of the Winter Solstice, that happens every year. Nothing abnormal will happen, the world will not end, and we will all have a great Christmas!

Stop stressing about something that is not remotely possible, relevant, or likely. Live your life, love your family, and have a great holiday season!

Regards,

Mike

 

Posted Nov 21, '12 at 11:07pm

viperx99

viperx99

24 posts

they still believe in the whole "mayan calender ending in 2012 apocalypse" BS.

If someone is stupid enough to believe this stuff, Its not worth making a 5 paragraph essay explaining the facts. They'll just have to wait it out. I bet people are gonna do it again with 2013, '13' being a bad number, just as they did in 2k, this year, the year after next year, and so on. Hopefully people will just get bored and stop with this fear bs.

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 12:31am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,704 posts

1) Mayan Calender

Don't forget the fact that the Mayan's didn't have leap year in their calender...taking this into account the world would have ended a while back ago had the Mayan Calender world ending been real...

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 1:08am

Moe

Moe

1,780 posts

Don't forget the fact that the Mayan's didn't have leap year in their calender...taking this into account the world would have ended a while back ago had the Mayan Calender world ending been real...

Whether the Mayans had leap year or not is immaterial, the translation from their calendar to ours takes it into account either way.

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 6:47am

partydevil

partydevil

5,109 posts

Whether the Mayans had leap year or not is immaterial, the translation from their calendar to ours takes it into account either way.

bullseye.

anyway. here comes the link again for all the info anyone would need to know to debunk the 2012 doomsday BS.

2012hoax.org

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 6:53am

partydevil

partydevil

5,109 posts

Don't forget the fact that the Mayan's didn't have leap year in their calender...taking this into account the world would have ended a while back ago had the Mayan Calender world ending been real...

1. mayas did never make a prediction of the end of the world (or any prediction for that matter)
2. mayas 2nd or 3th cycle is 18 instead of the 20 cycles like the rest of the calendar. this is a sort of leap they made about every 3 (modern) years.
3. following the maya calendar the calendar will end in 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future!

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 1:36pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,590 posts

For the whole calendar thing, our calendars end every year. The world doesn't end every year.

Why is it that people have the notion that really old stuff is somehow more accurate or containing supernatural information? Old stuff is just old, often really broken, inefficient, and inaccurate, or at the very, very best, not quite as good as what we have now. Why would the Mayans, or any culture/society from over a thousand years ago, be able to do what we cannot do now?

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 1:43pm

blk2860

blk2860

4,314 posts

This theory is simply idiotic. The crazy people that believe this planet is going to crash into Earth, should be locked in an insane asylum. Let me just point out the obvious, it's November 21st, 2012, 1 month from the apparent impact, but yet this (non-existent) planet is not visible. Surely, if a planet 10-times the size of Earth was coming towards us, it would be visible by the naked-eye, and from telescopes all around the world. It's not! Some other theories are, that it has a 3600-year orbit around the sun. So does that mean it (non-existent planet) hits Earth every 3600 years? I'm pretty sure people have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and our planet has been around for billions of years. This theory is just stupid, and there is NO scientific proof of it's existence, because, IT DOESN'T EXIST!

Nibiru exists. It's the planet the Annunaki came from. Although it won't crash into Earth. And just because people haven't discovered it yet doesn't meant that it doesn't exist. It is quite far off. And I doubt that the ancient Sumerian people just lied about Nibiru and The Annunaki just to annoy people in the future. Make sure you do research before you criticize others beliefs.

Mayan Calender:

*yawn* Here is my list of reasons this is impossible.

1. Mayans cannot see the future. No time travelers stopped by earlier to tell them the earth ends this year because WE DON'T HAVE TIME MACHINES.

2. How can you be sure this is the entire calender? Maybe they didn't have anymore room.

3. No mere man can predict the end of the world. It actually states this in the bible.

Asteroids, Meteors, Comets: I'll keep this one short, because this we can't really rebut. The Earth has been hit by asteroids, and meteors in the past. We cannot simply say that the Earth won't get bombarded again, but as of now, no near-Earth objects (NEO) will have any impact of our lives for the next few decades. I know, decades, very short period of time, but NASA is experimenting ways for us to avoid being the target of a fierce NEO

The "Star Wars" space defense system will protect us. I'm pretty sure Kennedy made this one and named it after his favorite movie. But still meteors HAVE caused extinction events. But I doubt one will happen soon.

Past D-Days:

January 1st, 2000: They thought that every electronic would go down because computers couldn't tell the difference between the 1000 dates and the 2000 dates.

May 2003: This was not the first mention of Nibiru. The first mention of Nibiru is in Ancient Sumerian Texts. So research it.

December 21st, 2012: Actually this date was supposedly the End of the world a while ago.

Now I don't believe 2012 is the Apocalypse. Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
All I was trying to do is debunk some of his statements even though I don't believe the world will end in 2012. I'm just stating the truth, all of the truth, and nothing but the truth. Once again:

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 5:12pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,079 posts

Knight

Nibiru exists. It's the planet the Annunaki came from. Although it won't crash into Earth. And just because people haven't discovered it yet doesn't meant that it doesn't exist. It is quite far off. And I doubt that the ancient Sumerian people just lied about Nibiru and The Annunaki just to annoy people in the future. Make sure you do research before you criticize others beliefs.

As fara s my short research goes, the Annunaki are a class of ruling deities in ancient mesopotamian mythology. Unless you call all ancient deities aliens, I doubt there's anything to it.

Nibiru appears as a name in babylonian creation myths, either describing a deity or an astral body related to the deity, most likely a known one (Jupiter, some say). The idea that Nibiru is an unknown celestial body is a modern idea some authors came up with.

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 6:52pm

Jacen96

Jacen96

2,271 posts

The "Star Wars" space defense system will protect us. I'm pretty sure Kennedy made this one and named it after his favorite movie. But still meteors HAVE caused extinction events. But I doubt one will happen soon.

The Star Wars system is the name applied to the SDI, planned to protect us from Soviet nukes.

Past D-Days:

What about a last year when the rapture happened? (on may 21st)

~~~Darth Caedus