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Posted Dec 8, '12 at 7:26am

partydevil

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What about animals stealing the eggs of other animals for food?

thats not a crime but nature.

when a lion kills a buffalo, that is not murder but nature. were not going to kill the lion for doing so.
but when he would kill a human. we most likely do. =S

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 8:26am

Masterforger

Masterforger

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No humans, no awareness of crime, no demand to get rid of crime.
No humans, no fun.
Getting rid of the human race is an extreme solution to the problem of crime. We would destroy a lot of good in order to eradicate the bad.

Not that you would care, you would be dead!
Nature works in a balance. Perhaps, once upon a pretty time, we were a part in that balance. Now, we are just insane fools at the helm, with the calls of a select few shouting for a change of course but being largely ignored.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:19am

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

Nature works in a balance. Perhaps, once upon a pretty time, we were a part in that balance. Now, we are just insane fools at the helm, with the calls of a select few shouting for a change of course but being largely ignored.

I find it really funny that people think we're so unnatural in our behaviour.. as partydevil noted, what do you call animals that steal others eggs or do similar things? No humans means no crime, but simply because we coined the word, nothing else.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:21am

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

as partydevil noted,

*pangtongshu. Got the posts mixed up, sorry.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:38am

Kasic

Kasic

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I find it really funny that people think we're so unnatural in our behaviour.. as partydevil noted, what do you call animals that steal others eggs or do similar things

Despite many of our actions being "natural" we still do things that aren't quite natural, or are so extreme they may not be considered so.

Laying down hundreds of thousands of miles of concrete and asphalt being one of them. Indiscriminate destruction of the land and whatever is living on it another. Pollution of other ecosystems through waste disposal...while you can reduce each of these to a natural tendency, the scale at which we do these is far, far, far beyond the scope of anything else.

It is correct to say though that what is pretty universally thought of as crime (murder/****/theft) all happen quite frequently in nature.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 3:29pm

MalKeshar

MalKeshar

116 posts

I feel as though most crime comes from three things. 
1. no father
2. sin
3. need
No father means no role model and no one to be an example.  If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know.  Also, without a father, there is need.  No single cause creates crime.  If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 4:15pm

Kasic

Kasic

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1. no father
No father means no role model and no one to be an example.

There are other role models for children too. A father figure helps, but making this claim is just incorrect.

If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know.

Fairly offensive, to make the claim that if you're not a Christian you're going to be a criminal.

Also, without a father, there is need.

Need? Need for what? I will guess that you mean money, which by insinuation is basically saying a woman can't provide for her family. It's hard for any single parent, not just a single mother.

If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.

Two of your three are not valid. "need" can be classified into many things as well.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 5:21pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

Fairly offensive, to make the claim that if you're not a Christian you're going to be a criminal.

Logical for people who've been taught that their belief is the source of "good". Sadly. That's why I'm making the strict distinction between sin and crime.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 5:37pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,268 posts

1. no father
No father means no role model and no one to be an example.

Like Kasic said. I don't have a father and I don't commit crimes (albeit...I do shoplift every now and then..but that is out of sport..not because of "daddy issues")...and it annoys me when people use someone not having a father as a full legitimate reason why they did something and why they shouldn't be blamed for what they did.

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 6:03pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

Eh... eventually, there are many factors that can influence whether a person commits a crime in a certain situation or not.. the father issue being one of those factors, one among so many. A predisposition, as strong as it may be, does not necessarily lead to the act though, and many people don't understand this.

 
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