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BurnKush420
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3 people dead including the shooter. this is on the front page of CNN. i guess somebody went into the mall and started firing an assault rifle at people. multiple others were wounded. this happened literally like 5 minutes from my house. [url=http://www.katu.com/news/local/Shooting-Clackamas-Town-Center-183077691.html] link to news article

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killersup10
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Why are you the one saying that you're tired of talking to a wall?

the american gun lovers rather block their eyes and plug their ears.
we can say and give reasons a million times but they will simply dodge it and return their same old BS every time.
it's annoying and tiresome to talk whit gun lovers about this topic as they are not even willing to listen and think logically. all they care about is the gun. nothing els, just the gun..



You stereotypical hypocrite. You obliviously believe that because 1 in a million people that own a gun mis-use it than the rest cannot use it. Not listening? You are not listening, you just keeping adding more and more incorrect things. Than you go out and start calling other people's thoughts BS? Get real.
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Think about what you just said, think long and hard. Now think again, it might take a few seconds for you to understand. Millions of people would be criminals within seconds. Entire communities will crumble. You need crops? Yeah, the farmer that just got arrested will not get to farm for another 10 years, good call.

hahahaha. oke i always thought you were a bit qwerky from the speaking in 3rd person. but now i gotta put you on the nuts list for sure. xD

Police cost money, guess what America does not have, money. Oh yes, shooting at moving targets with a semi-auto pistol. That is hard enough, let alone largely increasing the risk of the criminal getting away. Congrats, the mass murderer just got away because the police men were trying to hit legs.

awwww in 1 topic they are poor and have no money. in the other topic they are the richest and have the best economy and no one can beat them...
plz. grow up. their is money enough for the police loans.

and i already said after the 1st little reply on that sentence, that i do not mind to drop that line.
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Think about what you just said, think long and hard. Now think again, it might take a few seconds for you to understand. Millions of people would be criminals within seconds. Entire communities will crumble. You need crops? Yeah, the farmer that just got arrested will not get to farm for another 10 years, good call.

hahahaha. oke i always thought you were a bit qwerky from the speaking in 3rd person. but now i gotta put you on the nuts list for sure. xD



You don't realize, there are towns with more fields than buildings. Guess what, those farmers like to hunt. Guess they just became illegal Americans.


Police cost money, guess what America does not have, money. Oh yes, shooting at moving targets with a semi-auto pistol. That is hard enough, let alone largely increasing the risk of the criminal getting away. Congrats, the mass murderer just got away because the police men were trying to hit legs.

awwww in 1 topic they are poor and have no money. in the other topic they are the richest and have the best economy and no one can beat them...
plz. grow up. their is money enough for the police loans.



If there was enough money for police, than there would be more police. 75% of bridges in the US are unable to be fixed because the US doesn't have the money.

awwww in 1 topic they are poor and have no money. in the other topic they are the richest and have the best economy and no one can beat them...


Overall, yes as a whole country. However, these are communities of people that Killersup is talking about. Tax dollars are used for re-building things, paying teachers, police, and much more. If the community cannot afford to pay more tax dollars than they cannot have more police.
SSTG
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If the 2nd amendment is so precious to them then why didn't they do something about the tyrannic Bush/Cheney regime of terror? Remember the NSA. Cheney diverted the war from Afghanistan to Iraq so he could make money with the rebuilding. Many brave American soldiers died because of this *******. The rednecks didn't take their arms and overthrow the regime.

When Obama got reelected they ran to the murdering weapon store and bought more guns, talk about double standards and hypocritical people!

partydevil
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Overall, yes as a whole country.

the country pay's for the loans.. thus enough money. no?
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{Deleted several tongue-in-cheek posts from several users who aren't appealing to logic, but appealing to emotion. Good debates are established with sensible arguments with zero emotional attacks on opponents, because, as shown, it doesn't get you anywhere. So when you argue your side, do it the sensible way so there aren't off-topic posts that will be deleted}

nichodemus
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Think about what you just said, think long and hard. Now think again, it might take a few seconds for you to understand. Millions of people would be criminals within seconds. Entire communities will crumble. You need crops? Yeah, the farmer that just got arrested will not get to farm for another 10 years, good call.


What has this got to do with farmers and communities crumbling? Nothing. If so, then the rest of the world, where guns are banned, should be in a post apocalyptic world already.
nichodemus
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If the 2nd amendment is so precious to them then why didn't they do something about the tyrannic Bush/Cheney regime of terror? Remember the NSA. Cheney diverted the war from Afghanistan to Iraq so he could make money with the rebuilding. Many brave American soldiers died because of this *******. The rednecks didn't take their arms and overthrow the regime.


They were all on the same side. Baw.

Anyway, America has the highest per capita gun killing in the developed world. 9 per 100,000. Canada isn't even close with 4.78, and it's second. Just saying.
SSTG
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I just heard on the news that most of the NRA puppets have lost their seat to Democrats so here's our chance to start something.

nichodemus
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I just heard on the news that most of the NRA puppets have lost their seat to Democrats so here's our chance to start something.


Nah, Tea Party got hit, but is still strong. Just have to wait it out.
partydevil
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so here's our chance to start something.

probably not.
just like befor will the politics try to find some urgentsy that will take the debate off this topic untill people forget about it again. whit hard decisions like these, that often is the case.
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Millions of people would be criminals within seconds. Entire communities will crumble. You need crops? Yeah, the farmer that just got arrested will not get to farm for another 10 years, good call.

I think you guys are talking past eachother. He already said that they would have plenty of time to turn in their weapons to the authorities and would get incentives to do so. Also, there are other things to hunt with than guns. Or perhaps some long-rifle permits would be allowed in rural areas for safety reasons, such as wolves killing livestock.

Police cost money, guess what America does not have, money.

Not necessarily more police, but more focus on arms dealers if guns were restricted.

If the 2nd amendment is so precious to them then why didn't they do something about the tyrannic Bush/Cheney regime of terror?... The rednecks didn't take their arms and overthrow the regime.

Largely because the government has already become too powerful. With things like the Patriot Act in place (and it still is), any uprising would quickly be crushed.

the country pay's for the loans.. thus enough money. no?

Local police are a local expense. They could get federal money for it, but that expenditure adds to the current $16,000,000,000,000 debt.
nichodemus
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Largely because the government has already become too powerful. With things like the Patriot Act in place (and it still is), any uprising would quickly be crushed.


No. It's not that. It's because even having semi automatics and automatics armed militias will never be able to overpower the biggest military in the world. The law is outdated, useless and used as a faux shield.
partydevil
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Or perhaps some long-rifle permits would be allowed in rural areas for safety reasons, such as wolves killing livestock.

that is sensible. or remote places whit bears. i sure understand you want a rifle to protect yourself from a bear.
but this can be done under heavy control and bureaucracy.
i'm not against that.

Local police are a local expense. They could get federal money for it, but that expenditure adds to the current $16,000,000,000,000 debt.

doesn't seem to me that the government cares that they will by-pass the 17trillion mark. it will probably go up to 19 maybe 20 trillion befor really hard precautions are going to be taken by the debt holders.
untill then. there is money enough.

Local police are a local expense.

local politics do get money from the government anyway right?
or can, lets say..... florida go bankrupt whitout the rest? (or 1 city. (dunno how big your "local" is))
nichodemus
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I've always found the UK fascinating. 0.22 deaths by guns per 100,000 people, and despite not arming policemen (at least not in NI), there have only been 3 police fatalities due to gunshot wounds in the past ten years.

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