But the wording does not state muskets..the way the amendment was written (Right to bear arms) gives an implication that one has the right to bear arms..no matter the evolution of these arms

Situations change. Also, for the who knows how many times, the rational people are advocating increased regulation and restriction, not complete illegalization.

.I don't know why he is continuing trying to push it though.

Because it sounds good, essentially. It's a logical fallacy called a red herring, where you try to use something else as an example when it's not relevant to the point you're trying to make.

What I was trying to get at was that the law isn't outdated because of the guns we have now, but because of America's situational differences now

It's outdated for both of those reasons actually. What guns are now is as big a difference as a sling to a trebuchet. Both function on the same basic principles but their scope is so far apart that the former is harmless in contrast.

Alright so basically Obama wants to Ban assault rifles and stuff similar to that? Or all guns? Still I don't see how this will work since everyone knows CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW So why do people think banning it will keep it out of a criminal's hands. They can get it from another country. Trust me they'll find a way.

You don't need an assault rifle for any purpose other than war.

I stated no opinions on that. I was asking if he wanted to ban just Assault Rifles or Guns altogether. Also I said Criminals don't follow the law so this won't affect them. They'll find a way to get Guns.

Assault rifles. I was stating my own opinion too.

And at any rate, I don't see that many criminals getting Their hands on illegal weapons in the rest of the First World nations; far less than the USA.

i think that we should have guns in the USA but I think that we should have a very good background check on the person before the person sells the gun.

There will always be criminals, and there will always be those who break the laws. Gun control will only really hurt people seeing as how most crimes commited are with illegal guns and not legal guns. Look at newtown, I hate to bring it up, but that kid STOLE the guns from his mom, he had tried to purchase a gun but he failed because they did a background check and it didn't come up well. The current laws they have for guns right now is fine, basic background check to see if they qualify. But they shouldn't make us jump through 50 hoops to get a gun for something as simple as self defence. Assault rifles, dangerous but if for any reason a mob of crazy rioters or robbers tries to get into your house that is the best option. I'm not sayin shoot them all, just a simple bullet in the ground will scare most mobs off. Look at hurricane sandy, you know that there was looting and a gun would be a major deterant for looters.

Look at newtown, I hate to bring it up, but that kid STOLE the guns from his mom, he had tried to purchase a gun but he failed because they did a background check and it didn't come up well.

And his mom was obviously an irresponsible gun owner to leave the gun in a place her son could get to it.

The current laws they have for guns right now is fine, basic background check to see if they qualify.

More than a basic background check should be necessary when purchasing something that can potentially be used as a weapon of murder.

Assault rifles, dangerous but if for any reason a mob of crazy rioters or robbers tries to get into your house that is the best option.

Are you really that paranoid? If so, I suggest counseling.

just a simple bullet in the ground will scare most mobs off.

1) Then a non automatic weapon would be fine, right?
2) Why is there a mob at your door?

Also I said Criminals don't follow the law so this won't affect them. They'll find a way to get Guns.

Excellent point. Criminals already get guns illegally, what's going to stop them after the guns are banned? Nothing. They have no fear of the law now, they still wont have a fear of the law later.

Blaming guns for the abuse of the 2nd amendment right is wrong. Guns are not the cause of the trouble, it's people.

Maybe requiring character references when an individual goes to purchase a gun would be a good place to start. Check too see if the guy is responsible, if he is reliable, and if he has respect for weapons.

Look at newtown, I hate to bring it up, but that kid STOLE the guns from his mom, he had tried to purchase a gun but he failed because they did a background check and it didn't come up well.

The problem here is still the guns, too many of them.

There will always be criminals, and there will always be those who break the laws. Gun control will only really hurt people seeing as how most crimes commited are with illegal guns and not legal guns.

Actually no, if you saw the statistical report I posted a few pages back. In states where gun laws are strict, they just hop over to the next state to get them. National gun control is only as strong as the weakest link.

I hate to bring it up, but that kid STOLE the guns from his mom, he had tried to purchase a gun but he failed because they did a background check and it didn't come up well.

This highlights still the problem of lax gun control. You can make sure the person buying the gun is mentally stable, but you're not checking whether those close to him are. A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 39.6% obtained it through family or friends.

But they shouldn't make us jump through 50 hoops to get a gun for something as simple as self defence.

They should, for all reasons. Gun control has proven to work so many times.

Blaming guns for the abuse of the 2nd amendment right is wrong. Guns are not the cause of the trouble, it's people.

Guns make it exponentially easier to kill someone. The law is outdated.

Excellent point. Criminals already get guns illegally, what's going to stop them after the guns are banned? Nothing. They have no fear of the law now, they still wont have a fear of the law later.

I wonder why then, the number of guns obtained illegally in the rest of the First World is a pittance compared to the US?