I don't believe we had any greatest presidents because our debt began when Washington took office. But, for leadership, i guess ill go with good Ol' Honest Abe. He did lead the country very well through that war.

heck, if you take away the Watergate scandal, Nixon's practically gold-plated.

Ah, I agree. Without that bit, Nixon did very well. It's just too bad he was an idiot about that whole situation.

As for the greatest? Psh, they all contributed in some way or another to the current America; whether it is seen as a good or bad condition is irrelevant since they all contributed. To me, there is no "greatest" president, but rather a favorite president for each person based on actions they've done.

...Which leads to mine. Clinton. Aside, from his little scandal, he did a great job while in office, even fixing something of the problems that were present when he came to office. The scandal, sadly, only makes me admire him more because of the end result. He told everyone the truth after lying about it, despite it making him look bad. Sure, he had to, but for some reason the act that he committed seemed more like a real scandal, instead of Nixon's Watergate issue. Clinton's affair made him seem more..on our level, and I appreciated that.

Jefferson was great.
Jefferson, Lincoln.

Wilson ****ing sucked. What an idget.

Clearing up a point I made on page one.

What I meant by nationalism was why people always say 'Merica is so great.

And why was Wilson so bad, I think he should be commended for his efforts to stop WWI peacefully. (wikipedia article on him)

~~~Darth Caedus

I'm not a fan of either party, but this is pretty funny; Democrats have started nearly every American war. (not saying some of these are bad, buuut...)

1812 - Madison was a Democrat-Republican, which evolved into the Democrat party

Mexican-American - Polk was a Democrat, and the war has often been criticized as a "slave war"

Civil War - The mainly Democratic Southern states depart the union after Republican Lincoln is elected

Spanish-American - Finally a Republican, McKinley, takes the British-administered policeman of the western hemisphere to defeat one of the oldest and most powerful nations in western history

WW1 - While not caused by America by any means, Democrat Woodrow Wilson brought America into the war pretty late into the fray

WW2 - Again, not caused by America, Dem. FDR rallied the Depression-stricken populace into beating a bunch of Prussians on steroids alongside a bear, a pansy, and our Parent

Korea - Riding on his predecessor's coattails, Truman defended South Korea

Vietnam - Long, dragged out, and I'm not 100% sure if JFK or LBJ actually started it, but Democrat LBJ spear-headed the troop deployment to the South-Asian country. It's worth noting that a Republican president, Nixon, used an absurd amount of explosives to end the war similarly to Korea. It was only years later when the North attacked again did Congress decline Nixon's demand for war.

Gulf, Iraq, Afghanistan, wars - Bush sr, Bush jr. Republicans. You know the wars, I do, no need to get too detailed.

I'm just saying that, generally, peace means that all is well in the world and America is doing its job properly. In cases such as the second world war, there are reasons to come to the defense of the freedoms of Man, but again, generally war is not the ever-pursued option.

-Chillz

Mexican-American - Polk was a Democrat, and the war has often been criticized as a "slave war"

This was a part of Polk's Manifest Destiny..which helped gain America quite a lot of territory (the largest in U.S. history)

Civil War - The mainly Democratic Southern states depart the union after Republican Lincoln is elected

1) With the viewpoints he had..Lincoln would more likely be a Democrat (ignore the site it is on..the article itself is the main point.)

2) Also, continuing with this..the 2 parties basically have switched roles over time. Democratic of old are more like the Republicans of now..while Republicans of old are like Democrats of now

WW1 - While not caused by America by any means, Democrat Woodrow Wilson brought America into the war pretty late into the fray

Actually...Wilson tried to keep us out of the war and on a neutral stance. This only changed after the Zimmerman Telegram and the sinking of American Ships by German U-Boats

WW2 - Again, not caused by America, Dem. FDR rallied the Depression-stricken populace into beating a bunch of Prussians on steroids alongside a bear, a pansy, and our Parent

This set us up as a definitive super-power in the world. Plus..what do you expect us to do after our poorly arranged Pearl Harbor was attacked?

What about James K. Polk?

Polk is my favorite! He was so great. Did more in 1 term than most did in two.

Greatest president FDR  my opion by leading us out of debt.

i'd say Abe Lincoln. cuz he brought the country back together and ended slavery in the United States