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Lanod
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I'd like to hear everyones opinions about equal marriage right between gay and straight people.

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SportShark
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and seriously, could I even disagree without any of you calling me a (Oh No!, here it comes!!) homophobe?

Well I've got a new word for gays- heterophobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, gay people are not gay, they live a miserable lifestyle.

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I feel that this thread was never intended to be a fair discussion about what it claims to be about.


No, it is.
The side that is for marriage equality, however, just has an inherent advantage in the argument.

Because if I posted my real opinions and outlook (in non-offensive language mind you), I'm sure it would get me banned.


No it wouldn't. We have had people say some pretty hateful stuff and their profiles are still alive and well.

Your beliefs would be questioned, of course, because this is where beliefs are questioned.
Even more priority would be placed on you if you asserted your beliefs as facts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most people here just want me to say how much I love the people in question and not express my real feelings?


I, for one, couldn't give two ****s in a handbasket. Although, I believe there is already a thread about homosexuality in general, so stating it in this thread really wouldn't make sense, unless you believed it an argument for your stance on the matter at hand in this thread.

and seriously, could I even disagree without any of you calling me a (Oh No!, here it comes!!) homophobe?


Depends on what your reasoning is for not liking homosexuals. If it is because you find it "icky", then yeah you would be a homophobe. If it was from religious reasons there is a chance you wouldn't be one.

Well I've got a new word for gays- heterophobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1) Not a new word.

2) There is a chance that there are heterophobes out there, but they don't necessarily have to be gay.

By the way, gay people are not gay, they live a miserable lifestyle.


Huh..well when I was at the gay bar not just a couple hours ago, everyone seemed quite happy.
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Bit of a necro

and seriously, could I even disagree without any of you calling me a (Oh No!, here it comes!!) homophobe?


By the way, gay people are not gay, they live a miserable lifestyle.


This is going in the annals of this website.

Depends on what your reasoning is for not liking homosexuals. If it is because you find it "icky", then yeah you would be a homophobe. If it was from religious reasons there is a chance you wouldn't be one.


If somebody doesn't like homosexuals, they are homophobic.
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Have a couple of friends who are gay; they're happy on the whole, but when they're not, much of the time it's because of homophobic people and the ostracizing.

mbbs112
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Im kinda fine with Gay's but its against the natural balance so i prefer to stay away from them as i wouldnt want them stalking me, lol

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Im kinda fine with Gay's but its against the natural balance so i prefer to stay away from them as i wouldnt want them stalking me, lol


I think that's a bit callow. Homosexuals simply are attracted to the other gender, that's all, they're not lecherous anymore than a heterosexual. There're definitely going to be homosexuals with criminal tendencies, but the same can be said for heterosexuals.

I was brought up in an environment which shunned them as well, so I know how you feel, but after I grew up, interacted with them, and read up more on the topic, that mindset changed a hundred and eighty degrees. Try giving them a chance too!
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Alright if you say so

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As you are saying this then i suppose that i should give them a chance and if they are nice then i wont avoid them but, ill see what Islam say's about Gays

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There was a Story about Prophet Lut (PBUH) in which the town he lived in had Gay men and there was a verse about it:

And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?(80)Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."(81) Al-Araf 80-81



Do you approach males among the worlds(165).And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."(166)

[Al-Naml27:55][3]

Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly."

And the two who commit it among you, dishonor them both. But if they repent and correct themselves, leave them alone. Indeed, Allah is ever Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

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If somebody doesn't like homosexuals, they are homophobic.

Intolerant seems to be a more accurate word, because it's not necessarily from 'fear' as phobic implies.
Pazx
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Intolerant seems to be a more accurate word, because it's not necessarily from 'fear' as phobic implies


It's not a matter of fear, it's a poorly constructed word. Somebody who dislikes homosexual (or people of sexualities other than heterosexual) is homophobic.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/homophobia
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia
http://www.acon.org.au/youth/Homophobia/what-is-homophobia
http://archive.adl.org/hate-patrol/homophobia.html#.UuqaZPmSya8
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/homophobic
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homophobic
pangtongshu
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If somebody doesn't like homosexuals, they are homophobic.


As I mentioned, there are religious reasons behind some peoples feelings. They may be perfectly comfortable around gay people, but just not think there sexuality is "right"

Somebody who dislikes homosexual (or people of sexualities other than heterosexual) is homophobic.


I can already tell you, without reading all of them, that at least two don't state this. It isn't about necessarily disliking, but fear/aversion, that gives the status of "homophobe"
SportShark
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I can tell you that I don't pretend to "tolerant", because I'm not.
Here's why:
Homosexual behavior is extremely foul and although I couldn't care less about what they do to themselves, I do care I if they adopt children and perform obscene sexual acts on them. If you don't agree with that, I just don't know what the hell your problem is. I guess you all have been severely brainwashed. This isn't about just two people who love each other. I'm deeply concerned for people like small children who fall victim to their behavior and diseases such as AIDS.
+ if a homosexual man doesn't like women, I guess he could be called gynophobic? Just though I'd throw that in.

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I can already tell you, without reading all of them, that at least two don't state this. It isn't about necessarily disliking, but fear/aversion, that gives the status of "homophobe"


Aversion is not the same as fear. I'm sure you can look that up, but every single link I posted refers to something besides fear.

if they adopt children and perform obscene sexual acts on them


Do you believe queer couples do this?

if a homosexual man doesn't like women, I guess he could be called gynophobic? Just though I'd throw that in.


I suppose all heterosexual women are then gynophobic too? You can like someone without being sexually or romantically attracted to them, you know.
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Do you believe queer couples do this?

Ever heard of The National Man-Boy Love Association? Yes, there are many groups of homosexuals that do this, even entire organizations dedicated to it! Where do you think child pornography comes from? You know, the only reason I'm engaging in this is because I'm standing up fro those who can't or who not old enough to speak for themselves yet. This is horrible, and no one should tolerate things like this!!!, but most people are to afraid to stand up for what's right. I'm not.
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