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Posted Jun 20, '13 at 2:28pm

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

Did you...did you just state you think gravity is b.s.?

No, but I don't believe that it's a force.  I don't believe in invisible, strong forces.  The Moon's control of the waves id the biggest b.s ever, and that's the only reason why I stopped believing it altogether.

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 2:30pm

wflag10

wflag10

1,236 posts

No, but I don't believe that it's a force.  I don't believe in invisible, strong forces.  The Moon's control of the waves id the biggest b.s ever, and that's the only reason why I stopped believing it altogether.

So you don't believe in gravity at all? What do you believe keeps our feet on the Earth?

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 2:31pm

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

So you don't believe in gravity at all? What do you believe keeps our feet on the Earth?  I believe that nothing does.  We just are on earth.  We're heavy, so we stay on earth.  Really light things float.

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 2:34pm

wflag10

wflag10

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I believe that nothing does.  We just are on earth.  We're heavy, so we stay on earth.  Really light things float.

*Facepalm* So if I set a baby on the floor, would it float? But what would even make the light things float?

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 3:28pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,972 posts

For the water thing, I just got my annual drinking water report in the mail.

I'll list the contaminant and its units, the max contamination levels allowed by EPA regulatory standards, and the actual level found:

Arsenic (ppb); 10; 1.0
Barium (ppm); 2; 0.004
Chromium (ppb); 100; 0.26
Coliform Bacteria presence; 0; 0
Copper (ppm), results from 2008; 1.3; 0.0795
Cyanide (ppb); 200; 20
Fluoride (ppm); 4; 0.6 [sidenote: Secondary maximum contaminant level (not hazardous, but may be objectionable) is 2ppm]
Haloacetic Acid (ppb); 60; 22 avg, range 20-22
Lead (ppb), results from 2008; 15; 0.7
Nickel (ppb); 100; 0.73
Nitrate (ppm); 10; 0.22
Radium 226 + 228 (picocuries per liter), results from 2009; 5; 1.2
Sodium (ppm); N/A; 11
Sulfate (ppm); N/A; 30
Trihalomethanes (total of chloroform, bromochloromethane, dibromochloromethane and bromoform) (ppb); 80; 37.1 avg, range 30.4-37.1
Bromodichloromethane (ppb); N/A; 4.98, range 3.2-5.6
1,2,4-Trimethylbenzene (ppb); N/A; 0.21
Chloroform (ppb); N/A; 29.5, range 19-34
Dibromochloromethane (ppb); N/A; 0.44, range NotDetected-0.51

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 3:46pm

Minotaur55

Minotaur55

1,237 posts

Knight

I believe that gravity is just the name given to the fact that we don't float.  And some people go way too far with conspiracy.

.... I'm so beyond mad about this comment, it is not even funny. Alright, I know this violates the forums rules of changing the subject, so forgive me, but as a person who has a love for physics and the universe itself I cannot let this statement go without factual educating.

Alright, to start off with, gravity is real. It is not a name, it is a law that binds and protects all living creatures on this planets from being sucked into outer orbit, suffocated, and suffocating us from outer space (which has no air) and freezing our corpses into semi cryogenic lifeless masses of matter.

To clarify, space has no air. It would be naturally and scientifically proven if gravity never existed, it would truly be an apocalypse.

Secondly, paper is light, yet it falls to the ground. Why? Gravity with a mixture of air resistance.

Third, nothing on this d*mn planet floats without the laws of physics making it do so. Take a Jet for example: if you turn of it's engine it will fall flat out of the sky. Why? Because the only thing that kept it in the air to begin with was thrust that has more force then gravity, causing it to stay a float. Even balloons are bound by gravity, to it's own extent. If you fill it with air, it will fall to the ground. If you fill it with helium however, it will float. Because helium is not air, it has a different chemical make up then regular air (or carbon dioxide if you filled the balloon using you're mouth), so naturally it will act different then it.

And before you say that air floats, no, it does not. Air and / or carbon dioxide never leaves this Earths atmosphere. It becomes thicker or thinner at certain altitudes but never leaves earth. How can this be? Gravity. Everything on Earth, Mars, Venus, Mercury, even the gas giants Jupiter, Neptune, and Saturn have gravity. It is because of gravity that Jupiter remains a sphere of gas. Nothing else keeps it together but gravity and the atmosphere it is contained in.

Now, back to the point I am making. How is gravity real? Well, for one, if you jump you will land back on the ground and if you throw a feather in the air it will land on the ground. Answer number one. Second Answer, all four states of matter (that's Liquids, Solids, Gases, and Plasma if you didn't know) is bound by gravity as well. And they make up everything in this beautiful world we live in. Answer number three, even space has gravity. How can you say that? Well, if you do some deep it is a very uncommonly known fact that space is not without gravity. It is just very light, and according to my calculations, there is approx. 0.034% gravity in space. If you google this you will see that there is indeed gravity in space. And Space is the beginning of all things. A bible or a physicist will tell you the same. So gravity, is in fact, as old as everything that exists.

Alright, now for theoretical work. I myself am doing scientific research into the cause of gravity in every planet. While I will not state the details of my theory, I will refer to it as "Wave Theorem". Wave Theorem, by many people, has been answering certain questions as to how gravity is caused withing planets and certain asteroids. One of the answers I have found is, AIR! Yeah, that thing you think that floats. Air increases the density of almost every mass out there, causing it to be effected by gravity. By air I generally mean oxygen but you get the gist. Outer Space has no air, meaning that almost no resistance is being made on a object. Air resistance is what you encounter first when you jump, then the effects of gravity. This nullifies the concept of thinking that air is not bound by gravity. And air is what makes things float. Doesn't it?

I can go on till the day I die about gravity. But be sure to tune in next time on Minova!

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 3:56pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,667 posts

Knight

I don't believe in invisible, strong forces.

So you don't believe any of the fundamental forces exist?

I believe that nothing does.  We just are on earth.  We're heavy, so we stay on earth.

If that was the case we wouldn't weigh differently in different gravitational environments.

No, but I don't believe that it's a force.

Now this part is the only part you even came close to possibly being correct on.

It might not actually be a force.
All matter has mass, and the more mass you have the more it will curve spacetime. In spacetime we may be in essentially a freefall. So when we encounter a curvature in spacetime our fall is diverted to that curvature or what we experience as gravity.

To really be sure we will have to reconcile quantum gravity with general relativity.

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 4:02pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,570 posts

has been answering certain questions as to how gravity is caused withing planets and certain asteroids. One of the answers I have found is, AIR!

Uh, I wasn't aware this was a question? More mass = more gravity. Air has mass, therefore the more of it, the more gravity there is.

Air increases the density of almost every mass out there, causing it to be effected by gravity.

Okay what? How does air increase the density of anything? Air is a mixture of gases - you know, the state of matter with the least density? Further, air doesn't have anything to do with whether gravity affects something or not.

Outer Space has no air, meaning that almost no resistance is being made on a object.

Depends where you look. There are clouds of gases all over the place, just typically 'space' is mostly empty. Again, air has nothing to do with gravity, aside from it being matter...

And air is what makes things float.

Relative density is what makes things float.

Look closely, KnightDeclan. It's not you we're just disagreeing with because it's you. It's because you propose unsupported, random ideas about various things.

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 4:02pm

KentyBK

KentyBK

555 posts

I don't believe in invisible, strong forces.

Magnets must blow your mind on so many levels.

We're heavy, so we stay on earth.

And now, explain why things don't fall off of the southern hemisphere. Explain how you can stand on the South Pole without falling off the earth.

 

Posted Jun 20, '13 at 4:22pm

Minotaur55

Minotaur55

1,237 posts

Knight

Uh, I wasn't aware this was a question? More mass = more gravity. Air has mass, therefore the more of it, the more gravity there is.

No one I know has asked this question. But... some people... might ask it.

Okay what? How does air increase the density of anything? Air is a mixture of gases - you know, the state of matter with the least density? Further, air doesn't have anything to do with whether gravity affects something or not.

Yes, air has nearly everything to do with gravity. Air resistance is one of the things that supports gravity. It reduces the speed of an object to make it's force equal and, later on, less then the force of gravity, overwhelming the object and forcing it downward.

Oh, I made a miscalculation. My bad. Yea, no, the "Air increases the density of almost every mass out there, causing it to be effected by gravity" part was wrong. Woops. :P

Look closely, KnightDeclan. It's not you we're just disagreeing with because it's you. It's because you propose unsupported, random ideas about various things.

Yes, exactly. And if you say that light isn't real I will report that as a federal crime if possible. jk

 
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